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Jul 26, 2007 04:20

The internet is annoying tonight. I'll provide you with some links to demonstrate.

When I logged on, this came up on my homepage: And so on and so on: Obesity 'socially contagious,' study finds

A landmark study has found that whether those closest to you are overweight or slender can significantly influence your own body shape and that of others ( Read more... )

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Re: THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF SAND IN MY VAG ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND I'M GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU NOW hry2007 July 26 2007, 18:17:33 UTC

This isn't to ignore the fact that a lot of people, obese and overweight especially, should be working out more and eating healthier. But what's the cause of the problem? Several things:

*The US is the only industrialized nation that spends <10% of it's net income on food, because of our ridiculous supply levels. This is in large part because of the ag revolution of the past 20 something years that continues to this day. Technology has exponentially increased our supply of wheat, corn, soybeans, that sort of thing (including the meat products we get from our overabundance of said products), faster than it has evolved for produce.
*Farmers have to either use current technology to financially keep up, or if they're the lucky few on unpolluted land as per EPA standards and that have the money and training to convert, they can go organic, raise open range livestock, and/or diversify their land to raise higher paying products (in particular fish farming, grapes (wine is a booming industry because of current economics, the farmer makes more and the public can actually afford it now) fruits, etc)
*Shitty, over-processed "food", especially the simple grains that are known to contribute to obesity, are both more affordable and easier to prepare, a big concern for single parents. Calories/dollar is a big concern when you barely make the rent.
*Meat is cheap, because the livestock industry is being taken over by big business, which doesn't lose sleep at night over paying Mexicans 3 bucks an hour, abusing the ever-living fuck out of chickens, etc. The US government has ~15 year waiting list for Mexicans to legally immigrate here (despite the fact that we stole half of Mexico in the 1800s and have been financially suppressing them ever since). So, rather that let their own children starve, because believe it or not, brown people are human too, Mexicans risk their lives for jobs where they will be suppressed, physically and mentally injured, etc, in the hope that maybe their grandkids will be okay. Why the US uses such racist quotas, rather than look at which immigrants if legal could help our economy, is way the fuck beyond me.
*(On a related note, I don't know why we suppress immigrants. Not only is it hugely immoral and against the ideals of this nation, the working class is the group adding the most to the economy, by spending more of their income than the wealthy.)

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Re: THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF SAND IN MY VAG ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND I'M GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU NOW hry2007 July 26 2007, 18:18:06 UTC

*With all our cheap food and sedentary jobs, the only way poor families can keep in shape is through exercise. Gym membership is easy to put at the bottom of the list of priorities, because it's time-intensive, and it requires finding a babysitter. Also, a lot of small towns simply don't have one.
*Public transit is a joke almost everywhere if existent at all, and very few places are both pedestrian/bike-friendly and poor-friendly.
*40-45 million Americans don't have health insurance. Of those that do, you get what you pay for. Despite evidence that preventive care is much cheaper in the long run, it's considered a luxury. The notion of something like gym membership or Weight Watchers enrollment being covered is considered socialist and outlandish.
*Big pharmaceuticals have lobbyists in DC to buy politicians, as a means of insuring that we are kept alive well into our 80s, but at the same time unhealthy enough to buy their products. Preventive care, contraception, HIV research, why, that all hurts the bottom line. Let's keep everyone fat and diabetic through victim-blaming and stirring shit through right-wing "Christian" organizations /sarcasm
*Money >>>> Physical and emotional well-being. People working 30-40 hours a week, especially those with families, living meagerly but healthfully are looked down upon and have less influence in their communities.
*Western culture attaches a lot of emotional value to being a certain shape. Rather than being able to look in the mirror and say "Let's work on X, Y and Z" in a detached problem-solution fashion, thick women are made to feel shitty about themselves. This leads to yo-yo dieting, and they gain the weight back during a depressive phase, because they've given up on the rat-race, et cetera. Emotional value is attached to food, it's not called comfort food for nothing. And if you've only got a few pounds you want to shed, people will silumtaneously tell you "Yeah, you'd be so hot if only you lost a few pounds" and "ZOMG be careful be blah blah blah everyone who wants to be thinner MUST be turning anorexic".

I could go on and on, but the point is, obesity researchers never discuss the actual causes, because then we'd have to ZOMG EVOLVE OUR CULTURE.

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Re: THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF SAND IN MY VAG ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND I'M GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU NOW hry2007 July 26 2007, 18:21:12 UTC
:/ I realize this is pretty US-centric, but hopefully it makes sense and some of the point are universal

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Re: THERE IS A MOUNTAIN OF SAND IN MY VAG ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND I'M GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU NOW hry2007 July 26 2007, 18:33:54 UTC
P.S. Medicare/Medicaid overhead costs are ~2%, private insurance companies are at ~25%. That's right, the government is MOAR EFFICIENT!!!

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beandelphiki July 27 2007, 08:26:57 UTC
Well, since the so-called "obesity epidemic" began in America, it would make sense to me to start analysis there.

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Re: beandelphiki July 28 2007, 08:11:22 UTC
To be a further bum, I don't have a lot of specific commentary to all of this besides, "Yeah." I mean, I agree - the overall picture is very complex. (And it's an oddity of our modern Western society that the rich are the ones who can afford to exercise.)

The U.S.-specific information is interesting, because I didn't know it.

I'm not sure I understood your point about Medicare vs. private insurance companies, though. What's the significance of the differing overhead costs? *feeling sorta dim* I barely have an idea what Medicare is, to be honest, but it's government-provided health care? Is that federal, or state-to-state?

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hry2007 July 28 2007, 12:34:38 UTC
The Medicare vs private insurance overhead difference shows that publicly funded health care is cheaper, therefore we should theorhetically be going to that.

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