ATTF: Crossovers and Fusions

[scribble_myname]

So with MCU set in the real world, just expanded a little bit, and our favorite actor and actress doing plenty of other movies that inspire folks to want to imagine them as covers for Clint and Natasha, this is a pairing that frequently makes me poke around the crossover/fusion side of fics

Comments

[sugar_fey]

I have a weakness for the crossover 'classics:' deamon/His Dark Materials crossovers, Firefly, Pacific Rim and of course, Harry Potter AUs. They can be such fun.

[scribble_myname]

Nothing wrong with the classics. And I utterly adore them in Firefly.

[jacedesbff]

Yeah, pretty much every one of these. :-) I particularly appreciate when Clint is sorted into Hufflepuff. :-)

[medras]

YESSSSSS! I need more of all of these... for all fandoms!

[happilydancing]

I don't really read either...just doens't normally appeal to me for some reason.

Blah, what a boring response...sorry about that!

[scribble_myname]

Nah. It's fine. They're not for everybody, and I avoided them like the plague until I accidentally bumped into one that made me look for more good ones. (Most don't strike me as very good at all.)

[happilydancing]

Well, this isn't the same thing but since the actors both have little girls, I always think Clint and Natasha could have a little girl...of course, I was thinking that a few years ago too. ;)

But I love looking their younger (older?) work and "seeing" what they looked like when they were young- Clint Barton totally rocked the guyliner at various points in his life ;)

[scribble_myname]

I definitely do that checking out the different ages thing.

[geckoholic]

So crossovers aren't for me, and I'm really very picky with fusions. Basically, the more I love the fusion source canon, the less I want it fiddled with? There's nothing that makes me click out of a summary faster than the words 'Pacific Rim AU', for example, instant nope. If it's a theme I find interesting but am not at all fannish about, I might go for movie fusions though. I've written and/or attempted a few of those in the past, and there are two on my to-write-list for the immediate future, actually. One of them, indeed, with our assassins. Heh. XD

[alphaflyer]

I'm still not entirely certain about the difference between crossover and fusion. I mean, I know what it's supposed to be, but to me the distinction is kind of on the level of how-many-angels-can-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin level. But that's probably fandom heresy, so pretend I didn't say that ... ;-) Look forward to your fusion. Any hint as to what the other verse is?

[geckoholic]

To me it's pretty much "crossover mixes characters from different canons" vs. "fusion replaces characters from one canon with characters from another canon and puts them in their shoes". Or, in less complicated terms: if the original canon charas are still there too, it's crossover, if not, it's fusion. That's how ~I learned it, at least. XD

It's a movie: misfired romance and memory erasure? Hehe.

[scribble_myname]

I'm just picky. I'll read anything if you sell me, but how hard do you have to sell me! I get it. I used to just ignore the whole genre.

[alphaflyer]

How gauche is a self rec?

I don't often go in for fusions because, frankly, most of the time I haven't read the other source material. But there was one I couldn't resist, and it comes out of the fact that most of my Clint-Natasha fics are kind of anchored in their SHIELD identity, rather than the wider Avengers-verse. And because I know *cough* a bit about how government agencies work, the idea of SHIELD being inserted into some of the real-life intelligence agencies out there was just too much fun to leave unexplored.

The result was the two SHIELD/MI-6/Avengers/Bond mash-ups I committed with the kind help of my partner-in-crime, inkvoices, for the Marvel Big Bangs of 2013 and 2014, respectively: "Second Mouse" and Locust Wind. (FYI, we'll be doing a third one this summer to make a trilogy -- the little intermezzo piece, "Loose Ends" doesn't count towards that. Title and plot bunny are expected to gel after Age of Ultron.)

[scribble_myname]

Not gauche at all. If I want to point out amazing crossover, I point to these.

[alphaflyer]

So based on what you're saying and what geckoholic said below, they're crossovers then, not fusion? Eh. Hmm. Goes to show what I know. I just write 'em...

[scribble_myname]

I think it kind of depends. I've seen multiple definitions, and one of the fusion definitions is that "if the characters are there as if they've always been there..."

That definition doesn't work for me.

I consider it crossover if both worlds are canonically correct and the characters retain their relationship to their own world.

I consider it fusion if one world is changed by the addition of the other, thus "fused" with the other one. If characters take on new backstories and current work/identities, etc. or merge with another character (actor fusion), then that's a fusion.

As yours retain both source canon and simply let them meet/interact, that would make them crossover from what I understand. The definition of fusion I reject would call it a fusion, which is why I reject it. It's too vague.

[hanorganaas]

I am still a GIANT SGA and MCU crossover junkie. I actually am in the process of writing an AOS/SGA crossover =D