1)idiots vote for bush? it is proven that republican voters are more intelligent and far more educated than democrats
2)what cost senator kerry ohio was his iffy stand on gay marriage. During the debates he agrees with Bush that marriage is a man and woman instituion. However, Bush supports an ammendment banning gay marriage, and Kerry feels that the individual states should decide. Had he been smart enough to choose a side, he would have gotten the conservative homsexuals(what an oxymoron lol). Anyone who has read Machiavelli's "the prince" knows that you will always lose if you do not pick a side. Those in the middle will always be left standing alone.
3) While it is true that democrats traditionally win in large, metropolitan areas, we must analyze this population. Urban areas have the vast majority of homosexual and young voters. As winston churchhill once said "to be a conservative is to be without a heart, but to be a liberal is to be without a brain". I am not criticizing all democrats, but we must realize that kerry's biggest supporters are young adults that do not understand the difference between utopia and America.
4) Lastly, the reason many idividuals refer to Kerry as a communist is simple. He comes from a party that is founded on what are historically "communist" ideas. If you trace through history you will notice that not all democrats are communist, but all communists are democrats. The notion of government monitered healthcare is communist. The insistence on heavly supporting welfare is communist. All these ideas sound great on paper and anyone would be a heartless prick to go against them, but they are fundamentally flawed and hinder capitalistic progress.
Re: grow up lolsteccoNovember 4 2004, 01:13:13 UTC
i forgot to mention in point #2 that had kerry picked a liberal stance in ohio, he wouldve won because....... there was an ammendment on the ohio ballot regarding gay marriage, and he simply overlooked that fact. I suppose love is more important than money in ohio.
Re: grow up lolbatmannNovember 4 2004, 02:35:34 UTC
1) I would greatly appreciate it if you showed me your so called proof on this. If you would like, I will gladly show you an article of a study that says EXACTLY the ooposite of what you said. Fact: President Bush & his father have the lowest IQs of any president since IQs have been recorded. FACT: Clinton's IQ is less than 20 points away from genius.
2) Exactly my point, 250,000 people have lost jobs, yet Ohio believes gay marriage is a more important issue. Why? I don't know, these people vote for Bush because of his 'moral' (religious zealot) stands on different issues, but they fail to realize that Bush has been part of 3 different organized religions. The man doesn't even know who to worship. Let's leave the gay bashing, black hating rednecks behind and grow the fuck up. Do you wanna live in a country where the FCC can control everything we see and hear? I sure as fuck don't.
3) Obviously the people who vote republican have no common sense whatsoever. Let's take a look in history shall we? Who are the only two presidents ever to balance the budget? Lyndon B. Johnson, and Bill Clinton, democrats right? Who got us through the great depression, WW2, and is arguably the greatest president we've ever had? Franklin D. Roosevelt, also a democrat. Who managed to turn Clinton's HUGE surplus into one of the largest, if not the largest deficit in American history? George dubya.. the republican. The problem with republicans is that they don't realize what the most important issue throughout history is: the economy. Wars come & go, the economy is always an issue, any country with a weak economy will never prosper. Republicans think it's a great idea to let the WTO ship jobs overseas, countless Americans have lost jobs because of this, including my mother. I'm a 17 year old highschool student, not old enough to vote, yet I'm FAR more qualified to choose our president than a large % of the people who can vote.
4) Healthcare, social security, the new deal, the great society, these aren't communist ideas, they're socialist ideas. There is a difference. My problem with Cubans is that they label Kerry as a communist which allows them to completely ignore all the issues. The truth is, they wont vote liberal because of Elian Gonzales, and JFK's mistake at the bay of pigs. Let's just dwell on things that have happened and never move on, shall we?
Re: grow up loljet_fan_jNovember 4 2004, 04:14:35 UTC
ive come to the conclusion that you COMMY'S no im sorry DEMOCRATS dont like whats going on in this country, but since you guys have been educated by CBS, that doesnt give you the right to bash ppl you dont know anything about, heres a small exerpt from my friend cami: so you agree with Kerry. apparently, you like to accept falso promises. If you had taken at least one economic course, you would realize that what Kerry promised the nation could not be done. in fact, he would increase the deficit by trying to acomplish what he promised. and please lets not start talking about the brains of clinton and bush because the only advantage clinton has in that department is, that he was getting brain from his intern most of the time....if you guys need references i suggest u listen to phil hendrie or watch celsius 411 or fahrenheit 7-11....chump kerry would of been comedy gold though...you guys shouldnt rule out Canada.
Re: grow up lolbatmannNovember 4 2004, 04:40:39 UTC
I love how the only insult you people can hurl at Clinton is stupid bullshit about him getting his dick sucked. I really dont fucking care if the president gets his dick sucked, infact, I HOPE THE PRESIDENT GETS HIS DICK SUCKED. I don't watch cbs, I think michael moore is a fucking liberal duchebag and i cant fucking stand him, as a matter of fact i rarely watch tv for anything other than football games. Yes Kerry sucks, but guess what, Bush sucks more, he is a piece of shit, and shit rolls down hill, this country will eventually feel it, because apparently it has to be at your doorstep for you idiots to realize it. And calling me a commie is a weak attempt at insulting me, Karl Marx was easily the greatest mind of the 19th - 20th centuries. Don't get mad at him because corrupt dictators tainted his beautiful idea.
And don't get me started on false promises, remember a quote that went something like this: "NO MORE NEW TAXES"
haha, so much for that one.
And if that doesn't ring a bell, how's about "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?
Re: grow up loljet_fan_jNovember 4 2004, 23:16:56 UTC
you also failed to mention that later on in marx's life, he recanted his belief in evolution and admited that he made a mistake, but ya wut a beautiful mind....liberal propaganda = greatness right? but hey a least we agree on michael moore albeit that hes not relevant to anyone but himself, im sure Clinton came through on all of his promises (Wag the Dog). remember its always easy to campaign against some1 that all commycrats hate, its easy for any1 to say all the things u ppl wanna hear and actually believe hes gonna come through with it,maybe you guys arent communist.....maybe the term should be Idiocrats
Re: grow up lolbatmannNovember 4 2004, 23:35:28 UTC
Listen man, look back in history, it's going to show you that democrats have done the best for this country, there is no denying it. Yes Clinton lied, yes alot of Kerry's promises would probably have ended up as lies. Can you name me a single president or politician who never lied? Politics are based upon dishonesty, unfortunately that's how it is.
I fail to see any reason why you would be a republican. Do you own a big company or have any affiliation with big business? Are you a religious zealot that has grown up in white America all his life? Give me a good reason, I want to hear it.
And about Karl Marx, sure he may have been wrong about alot of things, he never counted on human greed and avarice, and didn't realize that communism would never provide any insentive to work at your best level, but his basic idea is undeniably utopia. It's disgusting what people do for money, it is, always has been, and always will be the root of all evil, and i'm sorry if that sounds too cliche, but it's the truth.
Re: grow up loljet_fan_jNovember 5 2004, 03:31:17 UTC
thats what i want to hear, what president hasnt lied about politics!!! yes good question to ask....now why do you bash republicans then? tell me if you are relying on unfulfilled promises, then take your shots at every other president in history its that simple...now i know your answer is probably going to boil down to war, but as my friend stecco stated..."bottom line is this... they only think about war, thats what makes them idealistic democrats." when u look closely, karl marx lived a horrible life, he died a miserable person...this is america not a utopia. As for why im republican, lets be realistic...you're not a daydreamer. every belief in the democrat construct is based on ideas that aren't fiscally responsible or possible......there are a plethora of stupid democrats that force me to be a repoublican. im sick of their comments i.e. "canada has free healthcare" theres no such thing, its a fantasy.. its 30% of the canadian paycheck there...ive said my peace
Re: grow up lolbatmannNovember 5 2004, 03:51:14 UTC
Every politician lies, that's the god honest truth. Why do I bash republicans? Becuase I think the lust for money these people have is disgusting. You can deny it all you want, but we're in Iraq because of money, and only money. You can't tell me it's just a coincidence that Halaburton is building and repairing all the oil wells in Iraq, it's all about money to these people, it's disgusting. Republicans let big comapnies outsource all their labor while hard working Americans with families too feed are left jobless. Democrats believe that if someone sticks their hand out, you put food in it. Republicans believe when someone sticks their hand out, you put a shovel in it and tell them to work for what they want. That's perfectly fine, but obviously this bullshit isn't even giving us a chance. As i said before, my mother is out of a job right now because the company she worked for shipped their materials to the Dominican Republic, why? Because labor is cheap there, and the money hungry assholes you voted for have no problem with these money hungry business owners taking advantage of the rest of the world for their own personal gain.
Re: grow up loljet_fan_jNovember 5 2004, 04:04:54 UTC
republicans are greedy? i know dubya didnt marry a ketchup heiress who happened to be worth billions...oh which by the way, kerry's in laws moved heinz headquarters to mexico..so lets not talk about us taking jobs away because also, we insource more jobs than we outsource. you gotta understand with kerry this wouldnt have stopped, that so call "bill" he would of passed to tax companies for shipping jobs out of the country would of done nothing because you know what in the end they are still gonna benefit from moving. outsourcing is good for the economy, we cant compete with the world if we are as idealistic with money as democrats seem to be.
Re: grow up lolbatmannNovember 5 2004, 19:58:45 UTC
We can't compete with the world? There was a time in US history when we were the mecca of production, when people were proud to own an American made product. Are you going to tell me we weren't competing back then? If the tax put on outsourcing were high enough, of course companies would stop doing it. There comes a point where it's just not as profitable anymore to ship out your materials. And if more jobs were being brought in than shipped off... why is the unemployment rate so high? If I recall correctly, it would be lower, MUCH lower than it is right now.
2)what cost senator kerry ohio was his iffy stand on gay marriage. During the debates he agrees with Bush that marriage is a man and woman instituion. However, Bush supports an ammendment banning gay marriage, and Kerry feels that the individual states should decide. Had he been smart enough to choose a side, he would have gotten the conservative homsexuals(what an oxymoron lol). Anyone who has read Machiavelli's "the prince" knows that you will always lose if you do not pick a side. Those in the middle will always be left standing alone.
3) While it is true that democrats traditionally win in large, metropolitan areas, we must analyze this population. Urban areas have the vast majority of homosexual and young voters. As winston churchhill once said "to be a conservative is to be without a heart, but to be a liberal is to be without a brain". I am not criticizing all democrats, but we must realize that kerry's biggest supporters are young adults that do not understand the difference between utopia and America.
4) Lastly, the reason many idividuals refer to Kerry as a communist is simple. He comes from a party that is founded on what are historically "communist" ideas. If you trace through history you will notice that not all democrats are communist, but all communists are democrats. The notion of government monitered healthcare is communist. The insistence on heavly supporting welfare is communist. All these ideas sound great on paper and anyone would be a heartless prick to go against them, but they are fundamentally flawed and hinder capitalistic progress.
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2) Exactly my point, 250,000 people have lost jobs, yet Ohio believes gay marriage is a more important issue. Why? I don't know, these people vote for Bush because of his 'moral' (religious zealot) stands on different issues, but they fail to realize that Bush has been part of 3 different organized religions. The man doesn't even know who to worship. Let's leave the gay bashing, black hating rednecks behind and grow the fuck up. Do you wanna live in a country where the FCC can control everything we see and hear? I sure as fuck don't.
3) Obviously the people who vote republican have no common sense whatsoever. Let's take a look in history shall we? Who are the only two presidents ever to balance the budget? Lyndon B. Johnson, and Bill Clinton, democrats right? Who got us through the great depression, WW2, and is arguably the greatest president we've ever had? Franklin D. Roosevelt, also a democrat. Who managed to turn Clinton's HUGE surplus into one of the largest, if not the largest deficit in American history? George dubya.. the republican. The problem with republicans is that they don't realize what the most important issue throughout history is: the economy. Wars come & go, the economy is always an issue, any country with a weak economy will never prosper. Republicans think it's a great idea to let the WTO ship jobs overseas, countless Americans have lost jobs because of this, including my mother. I'm a 17 year old highschool student, not old enough to vote, yet I'm FAR more qualified to choose our president than a large % of the people who can vote.
4) Healthcare, social security, the new deal, the great society, these aren't communist ideas, they're socialist ideas. There is a difference. My problem with Cubans is that they label Kerry as a communist which allows them to completely ignore all the issues. The truth is, they wont vote liberal because of Elian Gonzales, and JFK's mistake at the bay of pigs. Let's just dwell on things that have happened and never move on, shall we?
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And don't get me started on false promises, remember a quote that went something like this: "NO MORE NEW TAXES"
haha, so much for that one.
And if that doesn't ring a bell, how's about "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?
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I fail to see any reason why you would be a republican. Do you own a big company or have any affiliation with big business? Are you a religious zealot that has grown up in white America all his life? Give me a good reason, I want to hear it.
And about Karl Marx, sure he may have been wrong about alot of things, he never counted on human greed and avarice, and didn't realize that communism would never provide any insentive to work at your best level, but his basic idea is undeniably utopia. It's disgusting what people do for money, it is, always has been, and always will be the root of all evil, and i'm sorry if that sounds too cliche, but it's the truth.
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theres no such thing, its a fantasy..
its 30% of the canadian paycheck
there...ive said my peace
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