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Mar 21, 2005 13:14

i haven't used much of this "post" function of livejournal in long enough that few have thought me for dead, or overseas travelling. that itself would be sad if it weren't that it's even sadder i could be so teathered to chipboard technology that the non-use of it would consider me unliving ( Read more... )

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batmanintheburb March 22 2005, 05:45:06 UTC
rob, you have somehow just proved my point entirely yet i doubt you realized it. yes there are more punks in the city, "the city" is and always has been the social, political and cultural mecca of any given region. people who are say, "dissatisfited" with how things are done can act on it at the source. they have a reason to fight. a reason to hate. a reason to rebel. The means are there and they're directly affected by them, so why the hell not?

"someone can say they are punk but it is as subjective as saying someone is nice."
Horseshit. yes you can define punk. because if you can't define punk then how the fuck can anyone even remotely fasely and appropriately lable themselves and adhere to the sub-culture of "Punk"? how someone can gauge niceness are by actions, personality and temperment. it's possible to say that you can apply those same criteria for being "punk" but then how about being cruel? sexy? suave? last time i checked, there weren't 13 year old kids willing to shell out tonnes of dough to fit into being "cruel" or "sexy" or "suave". they're adjectives, punk is not.

"If anything, North America is full of "Punk as fuck" kids who mostly buy "punk" in a store."

Ditto to you proving my point, but that is punk as a fashion and not punk as an ideology. case: i direct your attention to "free the children" tool Craig Kielburger. if you ever saw or talked to the guy, you'd appropriately lable him as a concerned global citizen, or "one of those kids who never got any playtime in highschool". either way, Craig's actions regarding "free the children" fits the ideology of being "Punk". He saw something that pissed him off, he rebeled against having kids work in sweatshops, brought in a whole lot of international human rights pamphlets and changed a small part of the world.
Kid's a punk, through and through. (regardless of what music he listens to)

"And as for the punk's in the suburbs, they have more reason than any other kind to be punks. A major connotation of punk is rebellion, what better situation to be punk in then when you are sitting on daddy's knee, especially when daddy is a CEO at IBM."

'a major connotation of punk is rebellion' that much is true, but why then does a privilaged child of a CEO have to change their appearance to fit into a sub-culture that represents rebellion in order to rebel? does buying a studded belt, listening to three chord power rock and getting angry at anything that moves make someone punk? hardly. it just makes them fashionable. Punk as a working concept has to have a working rebellion. even if it's a small scale rebellion, the rebellion has to have a cohesive enemy or ideal. a target if you will. the black panthers will always have the KKK and punks have to have something that pisses them off.

at what point do we seperate fashion from ideology?

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