Is it still empowerment if at the end of the day you’re the one being consumed?
I don't think I'd ever reference Cat Williams, but I sat through his most recent stand-up routine with joey a week or two ago. It was horrible, but that's probably just because it was censored and that guy curses like a sailor. Regardless, he had a bit where he talked about doing the Flava Flave celebrity roast. Apparently he got really pissed off at the script when he saw it the day before. There were loads of jokes that he just didn't agree with. He wasn't too down with white guys writing stupid jokes to make fun of the black guy sitting in the roasting chair. After the show, he tried to talk to flava. Apparently he smiled a bunch and yelled something like, "I made money!" and then ran off. I can't remember how he said that, so you're just going to have to guess.
It'd be pretty easy to argue that using self-exploitation as empowerment on the personal level can exist while it can essentially function opposite that for the community.
To be honest, I really just brought that up because I think flava flav is silly.
It'd be pretty easy to argue that using self-exploitation as empowerment on the personal level can exist while it can essentially function opposite that for the community.
That is a really good way to put it! Hah! Now I can contribute to, 'is porn degrading?' arguments! Lol XD [Although my answer is pretty mixed on that one too] People who argue this sort of thing say, 'but she's choosing to do it!' a lot. Which is silly because I choose to do a lot of things but that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't degrading just because of my 'choice'.
Are you talking about It's Pimpin' Pimpin'?! Because I thought that was pretty funny, but in my defense I was also high out of my mind.
Probably, I saw it on a DVD, not comedy central or something, so I don't see why it would have been censored. I don't remember though, I fell asleep due to highness after maybe 20-30 mins :|
I don't think I'd ever reference Cat Williams, but I sat through his most recent stand-up routine with joey a week or two ago. It was horrible, but that's probably just because it was censored and that guy curses like a sailor. Regardless, he had a bit where he talked about doing the Flava Flave celebrity roast. Apparently he got really pissed off at the script when he saw it the day before. There were loads of jokes that he just didn't agree with. He wasn't too down with white guys writing stupid jokes to make fun of the black guy sitting in the roasting chair. After the show, he tried to talk to flava. Apparently he smiled a bunch and yelled something like, "I made money!" and then ran off. I can't remember how he said that, so you're just going to have to guess.
It'd be pretty easy to argue that using self-exploitation as empowerment on the personal level can exist while it can essentially function opposite that for the community.
To be honest, I really just brought that up because I think flava flav is silly.
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That is a really good way to put it! Hah! Now I can contribute to, 'is porn degrading?' arguments! Lol XD [Although my answer is pretty mixed on that one too] People who argue this sort of thing say, 'but she's choosing to do it!' a lot. Which is silly because I choose to do a lot of things but that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't degrading just because of my 'choice'.
Are you talking about It's Pimpin' Pimpin'?! Because I thought that was pretty funny, but in my defense I was also high out of my mind.
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I reaaaaalllly want to see it uncensored!
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