Scott talking about John, (dancing on ice)

[thought_ribbons]

I know this has been posted before, but YT was evil and removed the video so here is the re-post of Scott talking about John on Dancing on Ice! esp for the newer fans who've never seen it before!

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Enjoy I think it's the only clip out there where you actually hear Scott talking :)!

Thanks to the loverly! griggharris!!! who uploaded this to YT!

Comments

[ellie67]

sorry but I'm still a bit confused by this logic...from all we know about him he's English born and bred which makes him English and his mother being or not being Australian doesn't change that or are you really trying to say that anyone who doesn't have 100% English ancestors isn't and can't be English - to me if you're born in England then you're English- that is the definition of English after all....sure being English doesn't mean you're not British as well (and some will identify more with their Britishness than their Englishness and vice versa)but to say that because he has (possibly) an Australian mother he must be British not English is just nonsense especially as how does having a non-British ie Australian parent in your background force you to be part of the mixture you think is British...I could just possibly see the logic if another British nationality was involved but a foreign one!?!. I'm Scottish with Irish ancestors on both sides going back to grandparent and great-grandparent level respectively but if you try and suggest that I am anything other than Scottish and must be British then I'll argue with you irately till the cows come home

[ellie67]

Sorry but imho you are wrong...anyone born in England is by definition English or at the very least entitled to define themselves as English...it doesn't matter if their parents come from Mars - an Englishman is someone from England and if you are born there you are therefore English. Self identification is, however, something different i.e whether someone chooses to see themselves primarily as English, British or the nationality of their parents (the good old cricket test)...if you are seriously arguing that anyone with a non-English parent is not English and cannot then you are unwittingly quoting almost directly from BNP leaflets. And I'm still not getting how a parent who is of non-British origin makes one need to be British. By this logic someone born in London of ,for example, Italian parents but who has never set foot outside of England let alone visited Italy is not English but Italian ....if the parent is of one of the other britisn nationalities then i can at a push - albeit a very hard push - see that having more than one 'native' ethnicity makes them British but an Italian ancestor must make them the mish-mash of British rather than the nationality of their country of birth ie English? How do they qualify as British without 100% British ancestors if Englishness requires 100% English ancestors?

[ellie67]

if we're on definition then feel free to check the OED

English adj. of Enland or its people or language

Englishman n. person who is English by birth or descent

but hey I guess your seemingly right wing views of ethnicity supersede that definition

if we are comparing degrees - sorry am i meant to be impressed by the fact you have one - then perhaps the fact that mine is in linguistics means that I come from things from a different angle...by your deifinition your mother is not English so you are not English so when you have children they are not English since you, as their parent, is not English and when they in turn have children they are not English since their parent is not English and so on for ever. That means,going the other way, that someone who can trace their ancestory back to the Domesday book and evey one of those ancestors lived and died in the same English village is not English because their however many times great grandparent bunked up with Johnny Foreigner back in the 1050s....patently absurd.