Nick At Nite adds HIMYM; "They Came Together" trailer; Jason Segel talks about "Nightmares!"

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[j5fan1]

I think there was some benefit of having to written the script when I was so young. One, I was far enough away that I didn’t feel strange about changing things. I was very open to the fact it was more than 10 years later and it was worth reevaluating.

I wish CB and CT were as open-minded and willing to reevaluate their almost decade old AU finale script as Jason was with his own work. :(

This is a little off topic. I read an EW interview with Parks and Recreation exec producer Mike Schur in which he discussed the show's next and last season. What he said reminded me of the HIMYM finale and how much CB/CT royally screwed up. Here is what he said (I'm posting it behind a spoiler tag to be safe and so as to not upset any Parks and Rec fans visiting here): [Possible spoilers!]

The show has been known to take big risks with its stories. Does the fact that we’re three years into the future and this is now the last season mean that you might be taking even more risks than usual? Please tell me you’re not going to kill Jerry/Larry/Terry.No, I don’t think we’

[w4yland]

You're right, that does sound awfully familiar. If there's one positive thing we can gain out of the "finale" it's that other showrunners might look at it as some sort of cautionary tale.

Wouldn't surprise me if he's actually refering to HIMYM, it's exactly what CB/CT did (or not did), can't be coincidence.

[foreverinlovebr]

Can't help but think that anyone who's creative and knows how to write can rewrite an ending of a TV series when it's no longer relevant to the story. Anyone with the knowledge of writing anything knows that you should change a ending when it doesn't go with the rest of the series. If CB/CT weren't so into their 10 year old "Original ending* we would be saying different things two months later. But, no they wanted to stick with that and end it when the TRUE VIEWERS OF THIS SHOW KNOW FULL WELL WHAT WENT ON FOR 9 SEASONS.

Telling a story is one thing but erasing an entire 9 season show in the span of one hour was the absolute worst thing they did in the 9 seasons of that show. And I agree, if you're doing flashforwards at least give us something more positive and IN character and not completely erase an entire almost decades worth of TV.

[daervarn]

There is a very high possibility that it is not even the original ending. They wrote it months after their first emergency exit in 1.13. Also PF didn't directed the scene with the kids but as she said herself she knew the hole concept right from the start, that just didn't make any sense unless they changed the ending at the end of S1. So CTCB not only changed the ending but also let the show run as if nothing happened. With that they betrayed not only the audience but also their own cast and crew.

[foreverinlovebr]

I know, if they went a different way and didn't go with that crap they wrote 9 years ago it would've made sense. But, CB wanted to have his way and his way was the WRONG way. They could've just put this on the DVD and went with an ending that made sense to the story from season 3 on.

[w4yland]

Sorry for the delayed response, you're definitely right, it should be naturalness for a writer (especially for ones who had a really successful show for almost a decade). Not only for a writer, it's actually common sense as manda600 and the Parks and Rec producer describes, that you can't let the last episode and the ending be of a completely different tone as the rest of the show, making it something different (or worse, eradicating everything that came before like you say) and betraying it's fans with it. But sadly CT/CB are only two people in a long list of screw up producers, there are a lot of shows that changed the tone in the last episode or eradicated everything that came before or just left important questions unanswered just to do something unexpected and left fans disapointed because of that

[manda600]

First of all I wholeheartedly agree with them both here and, secondly, it's hard to believe that they're doing anything but thinking of HIMYM when making these statements. With Jason, I mean that is literally exactly what CB/CT failed to do, to disastrous results. If that wasn't an actual dig at them then he certainly must have at least thought about it when he was saying that. That retched 2006 HIMYM script was worth reevaluating indeed! Of course I think it would have been bad if it aired back at that time too. It was just bad writing period, IMO

[bucanadian82]

What kills me about HIMYM is it wasn't even a season or seasons worth of changes and disregard for the characters and story that made it feel like something foreign to us.

I was an avid fan of Frasier back in the day. In fact I religiously watched it from season 5 straight through season 11, and this was at a time when you couldn't skip a live episode and easily catch it the next day. So I literally dedicated a half hour every week for 6 years no question. Someone would have had to die for me to pass up watching it. Anyways IMO you could easily tell some of the writing was off in seasons 8, 9, and 10 in comparison to the rest. And unlike others I don't feel it was because the two main love interests - Niles and Daphne got together. They changed writers after season 7. Then Season 11 finally did bring back some of the old writers knowing it was the last season and I think it did go out with a bang which was incredible. My point being I never got the same vibe from HIMYM, even in later seasons, where an entire season just felt

[deeplyshalllow]

I don't know if this is true but I heard that CTCB are submitting "Last Forever" as their emmy episodes. Apart from finding this quite hilarious (even more so when it inevitably fails) it really does show just how deluded CFB is.

[manda600]

You've GOT to be kidding me? Is that actually for real

[deeplyshalllow]

Really not 100% - just saw it on tumblr, so it could be rubbish. But if it is (and given they submitted "The magician's code part 2" instead of "Symphony of Illumination" in season 7 I wouldn't be surprised) I just want to point and laugh. There were actually some really well done episodes this season - HYMMM (actually wasn't a brilliant episode but it's one of the best rated on IMDB of the whole series and the casual fans adored it), "Rehersal Dinner", "Bass Player wanted"... but no, let's go for the script written in 2006 which was inconsistant, OOC and woodenly acted by the actors who hated it as much as the fans.

[manda600]

Wow, they submitted "The Magician's Code Part 2"? There wasn't even anything good in that episode. There wasn't anything of note comedically or dramatically other than the last 30 seconds where Barney tells Robin he's engaged, but given what CB's feelings are on B/R that couldn't have been the reason, so why choose that episode either? Again, it's like they're trying to sabotage themselves, either that or they just have no barometer for what's good and what isn't (but even if that's the case, since winning an Emmy isn't about them but about others choosing them you'd think they'd ask for outside input as to which is the most likely to gain them Emmy votes versus just which episode they personally enjoyed the most).

[foreverinlovebr]

Now I know why they never won Emmy's for the actual show. They don't know what a good episode is, the funny thing is I'm laughing at them and their stupidity over how they prefer their ego over quality episodes.

[filleencore]

They did send "Last Forever" to the Emmy's 'cause Carter or Craig, not sure which, posted a picture of the booklet they got from the submission on Twitter.

ETA:
Final #HIMYM Emmy mailer arrived today. Looks pretty, thank you 20th! pic.twitter.com/V0kHvHlGod
- Craig Thomas (@HimymCraig) May 24, 2014

[bucanadian82]

Maybe they have literally gone into hiding in a bunker someplace with no access to the outside world LOL. That's the only conclusion I draw as to how they can possibly think they stand a chance and that its worthy of anything. Even if they haven't checked twitter, FB, CBS, or any of the numerous other social media sites that are trashing the finale even months later, just going out amongst society you're bound to know the general public's opinion. That or hes that self absorbed that maybe he thinks he has a shot with the critics liking it even if their own fan base doesn't. But even then some of the worst reviews of the finale were from critics not the general fan base.

In fact, I admit I am horrible at writing fictional stories and even I could have wrote something better than that in English 101 rather than the crap they aired. On top of that as you said its not even funny and even if you hated T/T, B/R, Robin and any of her friendships, it was still TERRIBLE writing. I thought CFB would have chosen Slapsgiving 3: Slappointment in

[deeplyshalllow]

I still think it's a great pity that we were all too emotionally distraught after finale night to start a #howimetyoursexism tag akin to the whole #howimetyourracism thing - because I do wonder if that would have had to have got their attention.