5.22 Swan Song: I Got Something To Say (Part 2 of 2: Meta Commentary & Production Notes)

May 22, 2010 00:37

Please note:  the "But Nothing Really Ends, Does It?" section below contains possible spoilers, since it mentions the CW's general description of season six during my speculations on what might happen.

5.22 Swan Song: I Got Something To Say

Lucifer takes Sam;
Dean and the car bring him back.
Promises break hearts.

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p.s. The Adam problem ann_tara May 22 2010, 13:34:37 UTC
I too hope that we get some indication when the season opens that Adam was, if not brought back to life, then at least given salvation by God by being returned to Heaven to be with his mom, which is what he wanted in the first place.

But as much as I hated the secret illegitimate child trope that the writers fell into with Adam, and more so hated that they brought him back as canon fodder once they decided to ditch the Michael arc, it still annoyed me when Sam grabbed Adamichael to condemn him to the Pit with himself since Adam isn't the one who started this whole ball rolling or had anything to do with breaking the world; and I also didn't appreciate hearing Dean say, "All I got was my brother in a hole." Well, no Dean, what you got was TWO brothers in a hole. I find it hard to believe for as much as we know Dean loves Sam, that Dean wouldn't at least acknowledge Adam's very unwilling sacrifice and being pulled into a story that he shouldn't have been in the first place.

So I hope for at least a passing line by someone, most likely Castiel, that Adam was saved at the end.

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Re: p.s. The Adam problem ann_tara May 22 2010, 16:37:52 UTC
I agree about Adam to a point. He's family too, like Dean told him back in Point of No Return. I also feel sorry for the poor boy. He was another victim of John's Winchester's clumsy parent skills. His childhood wasn't exactly pure joy, he died a hideous death, lost his mother equally horribly, was brouht back from Heaven only to be abused by Zachariah and then was grabbed by Michael. Now, my two scents on the matter. When Dean tried to tell Adam that he was sorry, Michael's answer was that Adam was not home. So I think that, unlike Sam, Adam wasn't trapped with Michael within his own body. My guess is that he was sent back to Heaven as soon as Michael took his body. I don't know if this is a logic explanation but that's what I want to believe.

The situation was desperate and Sam did what he had to in the circumstances. By taking Michael with him into the pit he eliminated any danger that Michael could still represent, possibly to Dean. Between Adm and Dean, he chose Dean. I did notice Dean's "ONE brother in the hole" but it's understandable if you think about it. He feels sorry for Adam as he said himself, but he barely knew Adam while Sam is his Sammy, the little brother he raised and loved.

That said, I do hope to see Adam's fate addressed in Season 6 and I wish him a good one. Also, unlike many other fans, I'd like to see him again.

Andrea

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Re: p.s. The Adam problem ann_tara May 22 2010, 16:58:03 UTC
When Dean tried to tell Adam that he was sorry, Michael's answer was that Adam was not home. So I think that, unlike Sam, Adam wasn't trapped with Michael within his own body. My guess is that he was sent back to Heaven as soon as Michael took his body. I don't know if this is a logic explanation but that's what I want to believe.

It's a nice way to look at it, but I kind of doubt it because Michael's claim that "Adam isn't home right now" is essentially the same thing Lucifer said when he told Dean in Detroit that "Sammy is long gone". I really just think it means that the archangels are running the vessel show, and the essences of the humans they took over are buried too deeply for the hosts to affect what the parasites are doing. Even Jimmy couldn't affect Castiel, and Castiel is much lower on the angelic totem pole - nowhere near as strong as an archangel.

So I think it is what it is, but I still hope to hear that God pulled "Adam" out of the pit, as he did with "Sam", left the angelic essences of Lucifer and Michael to battle it out for all eternity; and when He plopped Sam on earth, he plopped Adam back into Heaven where he came from in the first place. I do think the writers owe the audience a canonical on-screen explanation on that point. Obviously we know Sam has to be explained, but so should Adam, especially if we don't see him again.

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Re: p.s. The Adam problem bardicvoice May 24 2010, 02:49:35 UTC
I wasn't disturbed that Dean didn't acknowledge Adam's situation when he bled off his anger to Castiel; Sam had been his life, while Adam wasn't someone he even truly knew. He'd risked himself and Sam to rescue Adam from Zachariah, but Adam could never occupy the same place in his heart as Sam, simply because they didn't share the same lifetime of experience. Adam's exclusion in the heat of the moment was simply human to me, nothing more, and in the extremity of Dean's grief over Sam willingly sacrificing himself, Adam was simply lost for a bit.

I really do hope we hear someday that Adam is in Heaven with his mom, since that is what he truly wanted. He was an innocent overwhelmed by events, and I grieve for him. I think Dean would grieve too, but not until the initial sense of Sam's loss muted enough to let him feel anything else.

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