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bardicvoice

4.14 Sex And Violence: You Two Have A Lot You Want To Get Off Your Chests

Feb 09, 2009 13:49

4.14 Sex And Violence: You Two Have A Lot You Want To Get Off Your Chests

Siren’s lies force truths.
Accusations and anger
Spur violence, kill love.

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athenaswirls February 9 2009, 19:13:31 UTC

Yay!! As always, so glad to read your reviews. I love how you see Sam as hurting so much as his reason for being so distant with Dean. It's been hard not to dislike Sam for a lot of his choices and lack of concern this season, but remembering he's the same little brother that left in Scarecrow only to come back...

Thanks so much for your perspective.

bardicvoice February 9 2009, 20:01:16 UTC

Thank you! I really don't buy that Sam is a bad guy; neither of the brothers is, no matter how often we'd like to smack one or the other of them (or both!) upside the head for being emotional idiots from time to time ... like their decision to be guys at the end of this episode and just pretend they weren't hurt either by what was said or by realizing that they said it. Duh. It's the things you turn your back on that bite you in the ass ...

I think things are going to get a lot worse before they get better, but I still do trust that they'll get better. Family love and ordinary human heroism seem to be Kripke's touchstones, so I do believe they will be integral to the way the story plays out.

pinkphoenix1985 February 9 2009, 19:45:05 UTC

brilliant! yeah, I think that we're in for some painful times before the boys realize that they're better off together

bardicvoice February 9 2009, 20:02:15 UTC

Thanks! At least I do believe that they will admit the truth eventually. Guys. Sigh.

pinkphoenix1985 February 9 2009, 21:14:33 UTC

they have to! I refuse to believe otherwise

ali888 February 9 2009, 19:55:17 UTC

I'm glad you mentioned the Cassie lookalike. I've not seen her mentioned in other reviews and I began to think I was the only person who'd noticed her.

bardicvoice February 9 2009, 20:09:47 UTC

Heh - for me it was wondering, just for a second, why did that girl catch Dean's eye? Was it her intensity, or just that her eyes crossed his, or ... geez, you idiot, look at that hair, it could almost be Cassie! Is Dean wondering if he's seeing a real girl, or if it's what he would see when he looks at the siren because Cassie is still the only one he ever used "love" with and meant it? And then I thought, Beeson, you sneaky, crafty man; did you and your casting director do that on purpose? *grin* Here's hoping he claims it was intentional, just in case anyone ever asks!

harrigan February 9 2009, 20:42:38 UTC

So many people posted meta after this episode, but I decided I wanted to percolate my own thoughts before reading any. I also decided to rewatch all the episodes from day-1 during this mini-hiatus, fast-forwarding to the meta-moments between the brothers, watching them evolve ( ... )

bardicvoice February 9 2009, 21:47:23 UTC

Thank you! I've only now been playing catch-up, reading other people's take on this episode, and yipes - it's a scary world out there ...

I definitely agree that this time, it will take a lot more time than just an episode or two for the wounds the boys just clawed into each other to heal. Things are so much more complex now than they were in season one, and all of the stakes are so impossibly high. But I'm looking forward to the ride, no matter how painful or bumpy, because I love these brothers and I believe the resolution of their story is going to be worthwhile.

smilla02 February 9 2009, 20:49:28 UTC

Your meta for the episodes are as usual a great read. I don't comment often (and for this I apologize) but I'm always looking forward to see what caught your eye.

I can't but strongly agree with this:

The positive thing is that they can also heal each other from the wounds that they inflict, even though they can’t always heal the wounds inflicted by the world outside. I think it’s also undeniable that the love between them is far deeper than all the resentments they voiced, especially since even those resentments have their roots in love. Given time, even though they’re far from good now, they can be good again, even as happened by the end of Scarecrow. Their home will always be in each other.

Even though I believe that hard times, harder possibly than the rift in Scarecrow - considering the apocalypse and the angels and the demons - that it is coming to terms is still possible. It may look hard and maybe Dean and Sam have to confront old resentments and hurts to get there, but they can get back to that unit we've come to love.

bardicvoice February 9 2009, 21:53:16 UTC

Whether you comment or just read, thank you; I'm very glad you enjoy this stuff!

I think we're in for a much deeper and longer rift than we experienced in season one, but I refuse to give up; I won't surrender my belief in the power of the heart-deep love between the brothers. Nothing is black and white in Kripke's world except one episode of his show, and even if the brothers are being set up as pawns on the cosmic chessboard to appear to be on opposite sides of the conflict, I firmly believe they'll find a way to blend back into each other.