Comments | barbarienne: Realms's All-Wimmin Issue

barbarienne

Realms's All-Wimmin Issue

Jan 05, 2010 16:37

The editor announced it here and there has been considerable discussion on Jim Hines's blog here.

Full disclosure: Doug Cohen is a friend of mine. Realms is also the venue that bought my first (and so far only) published story.

Point 1, regarding Pandering: Holy Crom, people, it's not as if ROF is a venue that comes under fire for not publishing ( Read more... )

writing, sexism, rof, fandom, malapropisms

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jimhines January 6 2010, 01:42:28 UTC

Point 2.a.i. Doug updated the post to say "feminist" instead of "feminine," with a comment explaining it as a typing mistake. http://www.rofmag.com/2010/01/04/announcing-august-2011-women-of-fantasy-themed-issue/#comment-97

rachel_swirsky January 6 2010, 11:50:09 UTC

Not quibbling about the issue being a decent idea, which I think it is, but Horton doesn't record RoF as being at 50% female authorship. It's 35% this year, with the past two being recorded as 38 and 40. http://ecbatan.livejournal.com/85104.html

barbarienne January 6 2010, 14:33:23 UTC

Ah, good, thank you for the info! I was working with faulty memory, for sure. I'll have to confirm with Doug if that proportion matches the overall gender distribution in the submissions.

rachel_swirsky January 6 2010, 15:10:39 UTC

"Realms of Fantasy had the highest rate with 40% of 262 submissions from women (men 53%, unknown 7%)."-http://www.strangehorizons.com/2007/20070820/1women-update-a.shtml

rachel_swirsky January 6 2010, 20:16:11 UTC

It probably is, though I don't think percentage of slush is a good metric for working out what percentage should be in the magazine. Slush is... well, slush. I have some ideas of what a better kind of metric might be, but they would probably be hard to track.

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copperwise January 6 2010, 17:11:57 UTC

Hi, linked from Jim's post and saw your comments elsewhere. You might want to pop over to my LJ and read the post I just made about this. http://copperwise.livejournal.com/740568.html

kouaidou January 6 2010, 17:25:30 UTC

Doug, what the hell were you thinking, dude?

He probably wasn't. Patriarchy is like any dialect: you grow up speaking it, it's hard not to lapse back into it from time to time. I don't doubt the gesture was meant sincerely, so hopefully now he's been called out he (and anyone else reading) will be more careful in the future.

thelimbknitter January 8 2010, 03:23:45 UTC

There is a cadence from the Army which is appropriate for situations like this.

Here we go again
Same Old Shit again
etc

Doug keeps taking fire from the same people even when he does the right thing to which we have another Army saying worth repeating.

Setting someone up for failure.

I think some folks really need to get over it. If I had a hair trigger this sensitive everytime someone in the science fiction community made a boneheaded comment about soldiers and veterans (and they do so pretty frequently) or worse, wrote a fairly cliched and stereotypical story featuring such folks, I'd never get any work done at all.

Respects,
S. F. Murphy