I apologize profusesly for the book I'm about to write:kenobiMay 24 2010, 22:06:16 UTC
The “Flash Sideway’s Story” what did it mean? What was the point? The point of the Flash Sideway’s Story was to get the Souls to the point where they could move on to greater things. The castaways’ souls had baggage, things that they weren’t capable of working through in life and things that they desperately needed each other to work through. Things on the island that were never resolved, that needed resolution. To find redemption through each other. Perhaps the after life, perhaps reincarnation, perhaps something else entirely. Honestly, and most likely, the point of it was mostly to emotionally manipulate us and make us go WTF.
What was the point of the whole show? What was it about? It was about redemption, letting go, stepping up the plate, and moving on. This could all be just wamby pamby on my part as well. I interpet things strangely. I admit.
Why did the Losities need to find each other? Because they needed each other to move on. They lived together, they died alone, but now it was time to move on and they needed to do it together. There is this thing about soul mates that I enjoyed, it was a concept that was played with in What Dreams May Come that there are souls you meet throughout your life, and that you are drawn to them, and they help you move on to wherever you need to be next. There is also a lovely quote about how humans are angels with one wing, we need each other to fly. The losties needed each other for redemption and to move on to other things. I’m also a terrible softie (as you know) and I loved that they all needed each other.
With the exception of Locke none of the characters seemed to resolve their issues? I disagree here. Hurley did. I think whatever long a stint he had as island protector he was able to get through most of his issues, but I think with his character his one regret was never being able to be with Libby which is why she was his trigger for the island memories. It also invoked his Island Kahuna memories, which is why he is the most zen out of all of them. Ben, I also felt, moved past several of his with his episode, where he was able to give up “power” for what really mattered (Alex). Jack was painfully slow, but he ALWAYS has been slow on the uptake. It was through “David” that he was able to begin to move on and patch up his father issues. I want to rewatch the season now knowing what the sideway’s was because there are no doubt tons of symbolic markers in each episodes for the characters (seriously this thing is like crack to me) Kate I just don’t care about.
And what qualified someone to exist in SideFlash? I think this was a creation of the castaways, and that only the castaway’s were “real” everyone else served as a lovely little trunk of baggage or a vehicle to help move them along. (Such as David Jack and Juliette’s “Son”)
Why wasn’t Michael there? As Michael said a few episodes earlier he was stuck on the island as part of the whispers. And just to add in the reason I think Walt isn’t there was because Walt was a child when he was on the island he had the rest of his life ahead of him (and he had a pretty traumatic time on the island. Spend most of it locked in a room with the others) and therefore his happiest moments weren’t on the island. SO he is probably already in the light hanging out with Vincent.
Re: I apologize profusesly for the book I'm about to write:kenobiMay 24 2010, 22:07:48 UTC
How did Eloise Widmore know she was in someone else’s purgatory? Because Eloise, like Desmond, is speshul. And not in that short bus way.
How did characters get to be in the church at the end? Through their meetings, and through their little moments together, and through their awakenings they were able to find resolution and were able to move on past their guilt, or their burdens, and go into the next life “see you on the other side brutha.” To enter the church you had to be ready to completely let go and find peace, which most of them were able to. Ben wasn’t able to go because he still wanted to hold on to Alex and Rousseau and wait for them.
Why was Sayid with Shannon instead of Nadia? The way I look at this was that in this version of “reality” or “purgatory” if you will some of the extra characters are manifestations of guilt, or a vehicle to help a character “move on” (Such as Jack’s son David). Nadia was purposely set up in this universe as always out of reach of Sayid. Sayid created this himself purposely to provide Nadia with the imagined “ideal” living situation (house + children) while he also sabotages it with the situation with Keamy so he still has to rescue them. He could love her, but he could never be with her. There was too much “baggage” that came with Nadia. He wanted her to be happy, and knew he could never allow himself to wash his hands of the sins or her death and allow himself to be happy with Nadia.
With Shannon he could start a new, be a new man. I was never a fan of her, but I understood what she meant for Sayid. A restart. Sayid made Shannon a bit more bearable. I still didn’t like her though. Maybe it wasn't shannon even, maybe it was protecting her and being a good man. Maybe it was what Hurley said being put into action.
Why was Penny there but Helen wasn’t? Because like I said in the above post some of the characters were constructs/vehicles to help a character. Helen was such a thing. She helped lift John up and even made him consider getting the surgery, she helped him start to “let go.” John created her for his “purgatory” whereas Penny is Desmond’s constant. His eternal plus 1, is you will. She may not have physically been on the island but no matter she was always an intricate part of their lives, rescuing the oceanic 6, and being the one thing that Des could hold on to so his consciousness could be in all worlds :p
Why didn’t Ben go with everyone else? In my interpretation Ben didn’t go with everyone else because Danielle and Alex weren’t ready and he found his bit of heaven with them. It’s like that scene in What Dreams May Come when the main character, Chris, finds his wife in Hell and chooses instead of going to heaven to stay with her. He loves them and he is willing to forgo heaven if it means he gets to be with them longer.
Re: I apologize profusesly for the book I'm about to write:kenobiMay 24 2010, 22:11:50 UTC
I'm still digesting the finale, these are just the only thoughts I have now. I'm goign to post my recap later after I rewatch it again.. or watch something that isn't quite as heavy.
The point of the Flash Sideway’s Story was to get the Souls to the point where they could move on to greater things. The castaways’ souls had baggage, things that they weren’t capable of working through in life and things that they desperately needed each other to work through. Things on the island that were never resolved, that needed resolution. To find redemption through each other. Perhaps the after life, perhaps reincarnation, perhaps something else entirely. Honestly, and most likely, the point of it was mostly to emotionally manipulate us and make us go WTF.
What was the point of the whole show? What was it about?
It was about redemption, letting go, stepping up the plate, and moving on. This could all be just wamby pamby on my part as well. I interpet things strangely. I admit.
Why did the Losities need to find each other?
Because they needed each other to move on. They lived together, they died alone, but now it was time to move on and they needed to do it together. There is this thing about soul mates that I enjoyed, it was a concept that was played with in What Dreams May Come that there are souls you meet throughout your life, and that you are drawn to them, and they help you move on to wherever you need to be next. There is also a lovely quote about how humans are angels with one wing, we need each other to fly. The losties needed each other for redemption and to move on to other things. I’m also a terrible softie (as you know) and I loved that they all needed each other.
With the exception of Locke none of the characters seemed to resolve their issues?
I disagree here. Hurley did. I think whatever long a stint he had as island protector he was able to get through most of his issues, but I think with his character his one regret was never being able to be with Libby which is why she was his trigger for the island memories. It also invoked his Island Kahuna memories, which is why he is the most zen out of all of them. Ben, I also felt, moved past several of his with his episode, where he was able to give up “power” for what really mattered (Alex). Jack was painfully slow, but he ALWAYS has been slow on the uptake. It was through “David” that he was able to begin to move on and patch up his father issues. I want to rewatch the season now knowing what the sideway’s was because there are no doubt tons of symbolic markers in each episodes for the characters (seriously this thing is like crack to me) Kate I just don’t care about.
And what qualified someone to exist in SideFlash?
I think this was a creation of the castaways, and that only the castaway’s were “real” everyone else served as a lovely little trunk of baggage or a vehicle to help move them along. (Such as David Jack and Juliette’s “Son”)
Why wasn’t Michael there?
As Michael said a few episodes earlier he was stuck on the island as part of the whispers. And just to add in the reason I think Walt isn’t there was because Walt was a child when he was on the island he had the rest of his life ahead of him (and he had a pretty traumatic time on the island. Spend most of it locked in a room with the others) and therefore his happiest moments weren’t on the island. SO he is probably already in the light hanging out with Vincent.
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Because Eloise, like Desmond, is speshul. And not in that short bus way.
How did characters get to be in the church at the end?
Through their meetings, and through their little moments together, and through their awakenings they were able to find resolution and were able to move on past their guilt, or their burdens, and go into the next life “see you on the other side brutha.” To enter the church you had to be ready to completely let go and find peace, which most of them were able to. Ben wasn’t able to go because he still wanted to hold on to Alex and Rousseau and wait for them.
Why was Sayid with Shannon instead of Nadia?
The way I look at this was that in this version of “reality” or “purgatory” if you will some of the extra characters are manifestations of guilt, or a vehicle to help a character “move on” (Such as Jack’s son David). Nadia was purposely set up in this universe as always out of reach of Sayid. Sayid created this himself purposely to provide Nadia with the imagined “ideal” living situation (house + children) while he also sabotages it with the situation with Keamy so he still has to rescue them. He could love her, but he could never be with her. There was too much “baggage” that came with Nadia. He wanted her to be happy, and knew he could never allow himself to wash his hands of the sins or her death and allow himself to be happy with Nadia.
With Shannon he could start a new, be a new man. I was never a fan of her, but I understood what she meant for Sayid. A restart. Sayid made Shannon a bit more bearable. I still didn’t like her though. Maybe it wasn't shannon even, maybe it was protecting her and being a good man. Maybe it was what Hurley said being put into action.
Why was Penny there but Helen wasn’t?
Because like I said in the above post some of the characters were constructs/vehicles to help a character. Helen was such a thing. She helped lift John up and even made him consider getting the surgery, she helped him start to “let go.” John created her for his “purgatory” whereas Penny is Desmond’s constant. His eternal plus 1, is you will. She may not have physically been on the island but no matter she was always an intricate part of their lives, rescuing the oceanic 6, and being the one thing that Des could hold on to so his consciousness could be in all worlds :p
Why didn’t Ben go with everyone else?
In my interpretation Ben didn’t go with everyone else because Danielle and Alex weren’t ready and he found his bit of heaven with them. It’s like that scene in What Dreams May Come when the main character, Chris, finds his wife in Hell and chooses instead of going to heaven to stay with her. He loves them and he is willing to forgo heaven if it means he gets to be with them longer.
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Anyway. Love you Chrisface!
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