It’s such PERSONAL violence and it is the second time in the episode that Pullo is covered with blood!)
Ooo! I hadn't thought of that - but yes, he is covered in blood both at the beginning and at the end. How wonderfully symbolic, in a scary way.
That said I had to stop myself from quoting pretty much everything about Pullo in your comments and just go: YES! . Because I loved that he hugged Vorena, and that he just held her there. I loved that he looked sinister at Memmio, but it wasn't until after Memmio had called Vorenus crazy that Pullo went crazy. Still defending his brother and his legacy, even if a bit bloody
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I’ve probably read too many Viking sagas in school. There they bite of body parts all the time. Like in one of my favourite sagas: "Then Egil threw a way his shield and grabbed him and bit him in the throat until he was dead." I read that when I was 13 and have never gotten over it.
I find that my perceptions of dark, bloody and depressing are formed by Russian fiction. Russian WW2 films quite often show things of such terrible terror that I have never seen in Western movies yet. In Russain fiction "depressing and dark" is reserved for something like " Titus Andronicus" and a truly happy ending for everyone doesn't happen as often as in Hollywood films. Sorry for rambling, I am just trying to say that tongue-biting didn't shock me all that much. :D And neither I find "Rome" particular depressing.
So why did I find it so very fitting? Because this episode was filled with people who lied - either to themselves or to others.This thought about the episode's title is fabulous! I was scratching my head trying to decipher what it was
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hee - not a problem at all. In fact its very interesting, and the more you talk about Russian films and tv, the more it sounds like Norwegian tv. In a recent Norwegian film for instance a woman get lye all over her. She literary melts away. It's horrible to watch, but the film got the equivalent of a PG-13. In fact hardly any films get a higher rating than that. And I agree that Rome isn't depressing. It's heartbreaking and highly emotional yes, but I don't consider that the same thing.
This is a first stage of real healing between them, this breaking of the lies.
Oh I hope so! I'm just afraid that Vorenus will never come back, and that he will die in battle.
Oh absolutely. I found Maschius's speech to Pullo about all their history very touching. Lepidus on the other hand just comes across as Alan Rickman's less snarky, long lost brother. ;P
What was up with the falcon eating the rat? It just occurred to me that that was bothering me.
That was creepy wasn't it? I took it as a symbol for a predator eating its pray, and since it was shown in the Forum to have some connection to the public life. Perhaps as a symbol of Octavian?
On a historical note the Romans were very occupied with signs and portents, and especially signs from birds and their behaviour - so it could be a play on that as well.
I found myself nodding non-stop as I read your post. I love how brilliant mt f-list are about this show, because I never seem to analyze it much, just watch and emote all over the damn place. So much breaks my heart every week that I'm almost (but not quite) glad there are only two episodes left, because it's just so damn painful.
Thank you! To be quite honest I had to wait 24 hours before writing anything, because the episode had left he so devastated. First Eirene and then the horrid fight between Vorenus and his daughter. I now insist on watching Rome with cats nearby, simply for emergency comfort. Thankfully the cats don't seem to mind. ;)
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Ooo! I hadn't thought of that - but yes, he is covered in blood both at the beginning and at the end. How wonderfully symbolic, in a scary way.
That said I had to stop myself from quoting pretty much everything about Pullo in your comments and just go: YES! . Because I loved that he hugged Vorena, and that he just held her there. I loved that he looked sinister at Memmio, but it wasn't until after Memmio had called Vorenus crazy that Pullo went crazy. Still defending his brother and his legacy, even if a bit bloody ( ... )
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I find that my perceptions of dark, bloody and depressing are formed by Russian fiction. Russian WW2 films quite often show things of such terrible terror that I have never seen in Western movies yet. In Russain fiction "depressing and dark" is reserved for something like " Titus Andronicus" and a truly happy ending for everyone doesn't happen as often as in Hollywood films. Sorry for rambling, I am just trying to say that tongue-biting didn't shock me all that much. :D
And neither I find "Rome" particular depressing.
So why did I find it so very fitting? Because this episode was filled with people who lied - either to themselves or to others.This thought about the episode's title is fabulous! I was scratching my head trying to decipher what it was ( ... )
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hee - not a problem at all. In fact its very interesting, and the more you talk about Russian films and tv, the more it sounds like Norwegian tv.
In a recent Norwegian film for instance a woman get lye all over her. She literary melts away. It's horrible to watch, but the film got the equivalent of a PG-13. In fact hardly any films get a higher rating than that.
And I agree that Rome isn't depressing. It's heartbreaking and highly emotional yes, but I don't consider that the same thing.
This is a first stage of real healing between them, this breaking of the lies.
Oh I hope so! I'm just afraid that Vorenus will never come back, and that he will die in battle.
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Oh absolutely. I found Maschius's speech to Pullo about all their history very touching. Lepidus on the other hand just comes across as Alan Rickman's less snarky, long lost brother. ;P
What was up with the falcon eating the rat? It just occurred to me that that was bothering me.
That was creepy wasn't it? I took it as a symbol for a predator eating its pray, and since it was shown in the Forum to have some connection to the public life. Perhaps as a symbol of Octavian?
On a historical note the Romans were very occupied with signs and portents, and especially signs from birds and their behaviour - so it could be a play on that as well.
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To be quite honest I had to wait 24 hours before writing anything, because the episode had left he so devastated. First Eirene and then the horrid fight between Vorenus and his daughter.
I now insist on watching Rome with cats nearby, simply for emergency comfort. Thankfully the cats don't seem to mind. ;)
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