Dunno if this actually counts as Bad_service since this happened after we finished our meal and as we were leaving the restaurant. Watev
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Do you... not understand how the service industry works in the US? Waiters get taxed based on the food they sell, regardless of whether or not they get tipped.
most waitstaff do not understand that they have a responsibility to file an itemized list of the tips they receive with their taxes at the end of the tax period to get a pay adjustment. all of the people you see here whining about it, are all people who have not taken the time to learn their basic responsibilities to get their money back. also, they dont realize that if their place of business reduces wages to account for tips received in taxes, said place of business is also legally required to track all tips coming in, and provide an accounting of that list to the waitstaff for ease of filing taxes.
What are we supposed to do? It's a job, we do it to get our money. We also have to pay our support staff based on our sales, not tips. It doesn't happen, but there is a chance I could walk out with less than I walked in with after a shift. We make like $4.48 an hour, only. :\
"A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage. If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees."
This is also state by state. Again, I live in Florida.
If you try it without the eye patch, you might see:
If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference
The federal minimum wage is currently $7.25; Florida can make them pay more, but not less.
Um yeah, kay. Never met a server who's tips didn't and got $7.25 on their check. Including myself. So, yes, that may be law, doesn't mean it happens.
Generally it's because servers don't claim cash tips so they can kep more cash in pocket, but credit cards tips are on our checks. Tis adds up, and generally puts us servers at around $9-10 an hour, actually.
okay, so you sometimes bottom out on a crappy shift, but if you are clearing $9-$10 over all, that;s great for you, and great for your boss, and that's why you never see him have to make up the difference at the end of a payperiod.
I may be wrong here and if I am, please link me to some information so I may be better informed, but waiters are taxed on what they get PAID, not what they sell. Kinda like everyone else.
yeah, the problem is that people rarely actually try to find out what their responsibilities entail with regards to taxes & wages. there is a pretty simple way to file an adjustment for being overly taxed on tips not received, but basically most people will never actually take responsibility and do that, instead they would rather whine about how customers "robbed" them.
I can't find all my old links on this (massive computer crash a few months ago, lost all bookmarks), but stolen from yahoo answers is this:
But depending on what state they are in - the restaurant has two different options in reporting tip income. They can either record every actual tip they receive during a server's shift (minus how much of their tips that they share with the kitchen staff, if they do that) and report that. OR the restaurant can keep track of the sales that went through that server's tables on that server's shift and then report a percentage of that as tip income.
man, i am basically going to just have to repaste this same thing over and over:
100% wrong. taxes on tips are supposed to be adjusted at the end of the filing period when the waitstaff files their itemized list of tips received (which must be legally provided for them by their place of business, and it is a legal and irs requirement for businesses who pay reduced wages to account for tips to track). the burden is on the server to adjust their actualized received tips, from the estimated tips that is put there in the beginning of the year, then the difference is received via the tax refund. if people fail to file responsibly, or to understand the filing procedures for waitstaff, that is not the burden of the customers to bear, nor does it make it stealing.
it is amusing how so many people whose responsibility it is to understand how to file their taxes and manage their finances do not.
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In Florida, at least.
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http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/wagestips.htm
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"A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage. If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees."
This is also state by state. Again, I live in Florida.
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If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference
The federal minimum wage is currently $7.25; Florida can make them pay more, but not less.
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Generally it's because servers don't claim cash tips so they can kep more cash in pocket, but credit cards tips are on our checks. Tis adds up, and generally puts us servers at around $9-10 an hour, actually.
But yes, you're right, that IS what it says.
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But depending on what state they are in - the restaurant has two different options in reporting tip income. They can either record every actual tip they receive during a server's shift (minus how much of their tips that they share with the kitchen staff, if they do that) and report that. OR the restaurant can keep track of the sales that went through that server's tables on that server's shift and then report a percentage of that as tip income.
That latter is the big fuckover.
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100% wrong. taxes on tips are supposed to be adjusted at the end of the filing period when the waitstaff files their itemized list of tips received (which must be legally provided for them by their place of business, and it is a legal and irs requirement for businesses who pay reduced wages to account for tips to track). the burden is on the server to adjust their actualized received tips, from the estimated tips that is put there in the beginning of the year, then the difference is received via the tax refund. if people fail to file responsibly, or to understand the filing procedures for waitstaff, that is not the burden of the customers to bear, nor does it make it stealing.
it is amusing how so many people whose responsibility it is to understand how to file their taxes and manage their finances do not.
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