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Why. (Warnings: Racism and Stupidity)

Jan 19, 2012 16:34

I don't have the words needed to properly express my rage at finding this on a site I was briefly considering joining:

"-Gypsies are not the kind of people you want to hang around, especially if you have money on you. They're a tricky group of people, cunning and slick. They're known to be thieves and tend to travel throughout Faylinn, staying in ( Read more... )

if this isn't on sf_d yet it should be, flame me moar plz! flames tickle!, what the fuck is this shit, oh u!, charge of the white knight brigade, a bloo bloo bloo!, epic fail, perhaps it is you who are bad rp, calling all white knights, banned, next up on the c_w: wank unexpected, i didn't read the rules, congratulations! you're racist

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zesty_pinto January 20 2012, 01:06:08 UTC

I take it this isn't part of the historical flavor from the setting this came from?

sadfase_sock January 20 2012, 01:08:40 UTC

Nope. It's an "original fantasy" RP.

rainbowxgeek January 20 2012, 05:16:56 UTC

While it is original fantasy, I'm not going to damn whomever for creating a game in which a group of people is characterised like that. Because even though it's RP it doesn't mean that it all has to be nice, polite, and PC. Unless I'm missing something major, I see no problem with that.

I run a game in which prostitutes are kidnapped into a brothel, and treated as subhuman, tortured and raped as 'discipline' and may be killed by 'clients'. There's also human trafficking. It doesn't mean that I, as the creator, feel these things are acceptable. It's part of the game. And no, I DON'T personally share the views as expressed in the game.

Are you also going to castigate every single novelist, screenwriter, playwright, etc who has expressed unpopular or bigoted views? If not then it seems a bit hypocritical.

badgersocks January 20 2012, 05:28:15 UTC

The offence isn't that it's an entire group of people who embody negative traits. The offence is that it is based on the purely negative stereotype of and named after a real-world group of people, who actually exist.

As has been said man times before, substitute "gypsy" for another minority group, slap on their negative stereotypes, and see if it still isn't offensive.

ETA: For example:
Negroes: A black-skinned, fat-lipped race of brutish, violent people. They tend to stay within their poverty-stricken suburbs, and often react violently to outsiders - and each other.

If you can't see why that's offensive, then you need to sit down and have a long hard think.

badgersocks January 20 2012, 06:47:32 UTC

And sorry to nag the point, but also consider how lazy it is to just relocate an existing culture to an otherwise entirely original world, without making any changes to it, even the name. Imagine if, instead, it were, say, the Bedouin. And this game took the Bedouin tribes, as they are, and dumped them in the middle of this imaginary fantasy world, made no changes to the culture, laws, and customs of the tribes, called them "Bedouin", and really made no apparent changes. It's lazy and BRP, and just plain ridiculous. Yes, you can draw from real world cultures. You can mix and match. But to entirely recreate the culture, exactly as it is, with the exact same name? In an otherwise completely separate world to our own?

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