Shut the hell up.

[higenshi]

Everyone, meet Niveus.
Niveus is a greedy bitch who will sacrifice her own flesh and blood for what she wants.
She is not meant to have any redemption.
In fact, she's meant to eventually dieAnd yet, I was just whined to that poor Nivy should totes reform--even though she betrayed her teacher and joined the villains and tried to kill her teacher

Comments

[amredthelector]

I personally hate it when all badguys have to be "redeemable", even the sympathetic ones. Why not let them have back-stories that make you feel for them, but also still be unabashedly evil? To paraphrase the Ninth Doctor, letting someone go once does not mean you've turned over a new leaf. It just means that, just once, when the wind was blowing the right way, you let someone go. You can still be a total evil bastard after that.

I can get were your rage is coming from about people wanting to redeem your character. I have a villain character who was a former child soldier in a seriously messed up cult, who usurped the former cult leader and let some of the other soldiers that were in the cult leave. People seem to take this as a sign that deep down, he's a really nice guy and you just have to appeal to his inner goodness and he'll come around to the side of light or whatever. They also ignore that he's a sociopath who is still running a cult of child soldiers and only let some of them leave because they were too strong for his brainwashing to work effectively, and he didn't want people who wouldn't follow his every word in his army. He's a total bastard who tortures people psychologically for funsies, forces kids to fight to the death, and wants to eradicate all human life. He is not a nice guy. He cannot be redeemed.

[higenshi]

See, it wouldn't be rant-worthy if it was just them asking once.

But this same person keeps pushing it.

No. She's one of the many villains in this RP. And, like many of the villains in this game, though mine is an OC, they aren't regretting a damn thing they do and they will keep doing it. That's one thing I like about Kingdom Hearts--most of the villains are, well, broken off from the latest trend of sympathetic villains in FF (Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Kuja, Jecht/Sin, Vayne).

[lefox]

It helps that most of them don't have emotions, and therefore don't particularly give a damn as far as morals and the like are concerned. XD

[higenshi]

Niv's one of the few who does have emotions, and I think that makes her cooler and scarier. XD

[lefox]

EXACTLY.

Nothing's scarier than an assload of evil villains who have the "I feel nothing, therefore I care about little" excuse... followed by a villain who has the same evil factor without the excuse.

[higenshi]

Vanitas is in the same category. Except he's kinda evil incarnate, so I suppose he has a bit of an excuse. XD

[amredthelector]

Gah, I hate it when people do that. For any character, not just a villain that they want to see reformed. Why the hell can't people let others just play a character the way they are intended to be played?

I've never played any of the FF/KH games, so I can't really weigh in on their trends of sympathetic villains.