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aycheb April 8 2010, 21:43:43 UTC
I'd agree that the porn wasn't intended to be erotic in the sense of being something simply intended to turn the viewer on. I don't think it was meant to be entirely farcial either. Some of the full length shots didn't quite work but I was quite taken by the two fragmented pages (the Angel goes down one and the two page spread with panels of Buffy's sex face interleaved like polaroids with cyclones and coelocanths and cougars). They did kind of work to get me into Buffy's head while her body was being all nothing but mammal. Ripping a hole in the fabric of the world is very much the comic book version of bringing the house down, I think. OTT but that's always been the nature of the show and its metaphors.

The relationship between the new powers and the slayer line has got to be more complex than "She showed herself to be an impressive specimen"
Buffy and Angel simply winning 'best in show' would be kind of farcical although maybe no more so than Glory's big plan being "Go home."

We're pretty much on the same page about the relationships you mentioned.

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local_max April 9 2010, 05:42:37 UTC
Well, I go back and forth on the farcical aspects. I think the pages are genuinely funny, especially the mountain bit. But the shattered images do have some real impact. Because the porn was so in-your-face I feel like I need to make value-judgments right now, but I admit I'm still not 100% attached to any interpretation and can change my mind. There's a lot of negativity out there about the sex scenes.

I'd say more ludicrous than Glory's plan myself. Glory is after all a spoiled idiot set up to contrast with Buffy's self-sacrifice and magnamity, so simple works pretty well there. I'm kind of amused that Meltzer described himself in interviews as having a plot brain, because Giles' explanation makes almost no sense, but it's fine, I'm along for the ride.

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aycheb April 9 2010, 21:10:18 UTC
There's a lot of negativity out there about the sex scenes.
The collective doesn't seem to have quite made up its mind whether they're bad because they're too porny or not porny enough. Whatever. They're not, not funny. There's something, I hesitate to say given the bad sex pun issue, tongue in cheek about them. Like said not the stuff of srs string accompaniment. I'm tempted to make that Bad Reputation vid to explain what I mean. Except it would take time away from the extremely serious Sarah Connor = Chaka Khan vid. Decisions, decisions.

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local_max April 11 2010, 06:51:24 UTC
The collective doesn't seem to have quite made up its mind whether they're bad because they're too porny or not porny enough. Whatever.

Well, I get that there's a lot of people who would rather there not be anything porny, and a lot who would like what they consider to be porny to be *good porn*. I even understand the argument that it's antifeminist to have the whole plotline hinge on Buffy's sex life so strongly. But none of them really match up to my feelings reading the issue and the arc so I'm mostly ignoring them.

They're not, not funny. There's something, I hesitate to say given the bad sex pun issue, tongue in cheek about them. Like said not the stuff of srs string accompaniment. I'm tempted to make that Bad Reputation vid to explain what I mean.

Vidding is one of those parts of fandom (like fic) I've mostly been underexposed to, mostly to read print meta. Still I'm very curious.

Except it would take time away from the extremely serious Sarah Connor = Chaka Khan vid. Decisions, decisions.

And this is where I admit with shame that I've only watched four T:TSCC episodes. I liked it and the show is totally on my list. Well, the longer comments I write the further back it'll get pushed I suppose.

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