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Jul 12, 2009 19:29

What the slag is wrong with me?

Hnn.

"What fates impose, that men must needs abide; It boots not to resist both wind and tide."Question for others; are our fates sealed in what we see? What we do? What we think ( Read more... )

transformers: dreamwave | starscream

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greasemunkygal July 13 2009, 01:29:43 UTC
Hm. I dunno, I like to think I can choose my own path.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 01:40:33 UTC
Well, what if you learned every other version of yourself failed in some way? Would you still believe that your path was your own?

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greasemunkygal July 13 2009, 01:42:14 UTC
Yes, because they aren't you.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 01:44:13 UTC
Hm. That is an interesting way to look at it. Thank you, human pet.

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Voice kinos_journal July 13 2009, 01:57:58 UTC
[carefully said, as if being thought deeply on]
I do not think I know very much at all, when you look at everything there is to learn. And I know even less about you and the Decepticons. But I think if we are fated to some end, it removes the meaning to exist- to move and do things and see and change.
You could think of it this way: If you were doomed to fail, and only see that now because you can see other versions of yourself from other worlds where things are different, doesn't that mean you now know what you need to to keep yourself from failing? How could 'fate' decide your end when you've been taken to a world that's not where you belong, doing the things you weren't doing before?

If there is something such as fate, I don't think it could have planned for this.

I think it will be your own actions that determine what happens.

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Re: Voice airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:13:21 UTC
Perhaps, but what if in the end our resolve is still the same? What if in by changing our actions we still end up with the same result?

If fate doesn't control us and we control ourselves... what is to stop us from making the same mistakes? Because we know the answers? Perhaps. But it could be that in our quest to make things different that we end up failing anyway because by trying to change the course we end up being its cause.

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Re: Voice kinos_journal July 13 2009, 02:30:41 UTC
I think you are what stops you from making the same mistakes. You might still fail, but you'll fail because of your actions, not because something decided it. If you have the answers already, it means you can't fail the same way as they have. Just on your own way.
Of course, it might be that what you are trying to do is the problem itself, and that you fail because the project is doomed, not you. If you tried something else, what would you accomplish then might be very different.

But I think, if you spend your days worried if your action or inaction is determined by something other than you, then you are doomed.

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Re: Voice airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:32:52 UTC
Nnn. Perhaps.

It is just that I would like to view myself as different from the others.

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bitchingcamaro July 13 2009, 02:20:47 UTC
"We have no fate but what we make."

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:29:52 UTC
Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance.

But in the end, I would like to believe that my end result will be of my choosing.

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bitchingcamaro July 13 2009, 02:32:41 UTC
I think we all hope for that.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:35:39 UTC
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Am I agreeing with an Autobot?

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The universe is going to implode.

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feminineside July 13 2009, 02:29:12 UTC
Just because my template was a failure doesn't mean I have to be.

I don't know about you, though.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:31:08 UTC
I don't know anything about the one you were based upon.

If he is anything like myself, however, I highly doubt he sees himself as a failure.

You, on the other hand, I am still waiting to judge.

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feminineside July 13 2009, 02:32:30 UTC
Think you, only slightly screechier and more annoying.

A Starscream by any name...well, alright, I've found one exception.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:34:49 UTC
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Much like that other version?

He is far more annoying than M--other mechs.

And yet you, my dear, seem to be far more like a Starscream than you realize.

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glassloyalist July 13 2009, 02:36:01 UTC
We are shaped by our choices. I do not believe in any fate other than the one I shape for myself.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:39:35 UTC
Well, your case is entirely different.

Situations are reversed. Had you lived in a world like ours, would you then believe your choices might have been the same?

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glassloyalist July 13 2009, 02:40:56 UTC
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That's what frightens me, actually. That in another world, I could have been you.

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airspacecommand July 13 2009, 02:42:51 UTC
And would that truly be so bad?

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