time to wait too long

[aventurine]

do you think what's going to happen will happen no matter what we do? are we on a collision course with destiny? or maybe not everything is predetermined, but maybe some big events like birth or death?
dinner tonight at the cleveland chop house (824 west st. clair, warehouse district) at 7pm. anybody is welcome to join us if they'd like, the

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[dilatedeyes]

i wish I could come up, I'm so tired of being cooped up. but I have to go take 2 test retakes tomorrow and without a license, i'm screwed.

I'm still really immature about my beliefs, so they're constantly changing as i read and learn more and more. so. I'm not sure. I don't really like the idea of everything being predetermined, though, because i'd like to believe I have at least some control over what goes on in my life. and since this has been a deathful week, i really do think that death is predetermined. my cousin just had a massive heartattack and died, he was only like 40 and no history of heart disease. just very random.

[bradochophobia]

i think that nothing is predetermined, yet i believe that it is possible to predict correctly what will happen. i also think that whatever higher power there is knows what will happen but doesnt predetermine what will happen.

[aventurine]

is the higher power's knowledge constantly changing then, given all the possibilities? it would seem if things change so much you couldn't really know anything.

[bradochophobia]

the higher power is all knowing... knowing what you have chosen, are chosing, and will chose... yet the higher power does not influence nor make any of these decisions for you.

[aventurine]

so when are you coming up?

i think we have control over what we do, but i'm not sure that it all matters in the end. so maybe that's not having control? or maybe it is. you can do whatever you want... but you're still in a cage doing it.

[aventurine]

i'm sorry to hear about your cousin, that really sucks.

i remember when that happened to mr. kostell in high school. i liked him.

when is the funeral?