Writing process babblings

[auronlu]

I haven't ever joined NaNoMo, because I've never had the time and immediately explode when I have deadlines. However, I've been pecking at writing again in November. It's as difficult as ever- how I miss being a young, naive writer who never saw my flaws, who just wrote for writing's sake- but at least it's happening. Unfortunately, the mundane

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[melchar]

Luke and Leia were more than 6 years different in original age [Luke 18, Leia around 25] in 'Star Wars' [the original flick].

Lucas got completely cheesed off when the actors/workers on 'Empire' talked about what they were doing and the plot points started to leak out [because Lucas is/was a tyrannical control freak] - so he rewrote about half the script. From what I've -heard- the Luke/Leia siblings plot point didn't happen until 'Jedi' was written - and making them twins is IMO ludicrious [unless Luke was stuck in carbonite for a few years].

[auronlu]

Aha! I THOUGHT it seemed tacked on! Only there's that "another skywalker" thing thrown into the end of Empire! So it wasn't my imagination -- it was supposed to be a straight love triangle about halfway through that movie, and then at some point Lucas changed it (after he started writing the third movie)!

I feel vindicated.

To Lucas' credit, he did a fair job with the trope in the third movie. One can either view it as a cop-out (love triangle resolved), or as a touching resolution.

But they never had to deal with the problem: what if you discover the person you've fallen for is a sibling? A painful question, although thankfully it's not likely to happen in real life.

I am a little afraid to tackle it, because I have no siblings, so maybe I'm not qualified to explore sibling relationships. But I think that's why the question intrigues me.

[melchar]

'another Skywalker' at the end of 'Empire? Huh? Where? There -is- an exchange between Yoda & Kenobi about: [Kenobi] 'that boy is our only hope' [yoda] 'There is another' [fade to black]

But if Lucas went and re-dialogued that scene, I could strangle him. {I have the original videotapes/DVDs without the cr@appy edits Lucas disfigured the 1st 3 films with].

[auronlu]

Oh, no, I'm getting mixed up; it's still "there is another" in Empire. I assume by the time Lucas wrote that line (which I swore up and down was "there is no other" when I first saw the film, causing many a heated discussion) he must have had the Luke & Leia relationship worked out.

More importantly, in Empire, there's the escape from Cloud City sequence when Leia's Lassie Telepathy (tm) makes her receptive to Luke's distress call. The excuse for that could simply be her own latent talent with the Force, Force, as implied by Yoda's comment above. However, I had the impression that there was another reason: both she and Vader were sensing Luke partly because of their blood relationship. (I haven't seen it in a while, but I vaguely remember Vader calling to Luke from afar, and Luke hearing it

[melchar]

The 'there is another' was a Lucas threat [and opt out point]. As 'Empire' wrapped shooting, Lucas had to deal with

[auronlu]

Yes, the competent decoy had to die. Of course. (And she WOULD be played by one of my favorite actors, although come to think of it, I may first have taken a shine to her in that role. I love her opening scene.... she gets a few speeches as the queen, and delivers them with a gravitas that is painfully lacking later

[melchar]

Actually there is 1 mention of Wedge's last name in either 'Star Wars' or 'Empire'. If it was the 1st movie, it would've been around where Luke meets back up with Biggs. For 'Empire' it would've been on Hoth [he destroys the first AT-AT]. My weird little brain noticed it - and that 'Empire' specifically has Wedge surviving the Hoth invasion. He's also in 'Jedi' - and helps Lando destroy the 2nd Death Star. Because he keeps surviving and is a pilot who successfully destroys a lot of the enemy ships, there was a lot of speculation before 'Jedi' came out that he would turn out to be the other possible Jedi candidate. [Ack! The things I remember from 30 years ago!]

Amusingly, Biggs and Wedge show up as ancillary characters in a lot of the 'Final Fantasy' games. I know they were in FF7, FFX & FFXII

[auronlu]

Oho, you're more observant than I am! Or not; I just haven't hooked into Star Wars lore as deeply, despite having an entire Death Star's worth of original SW figures and toys from the late 70s and early 80s are probably worth something -- less, since I played with them often.

I noticed that poor Wedge got (a) a name, which is an honor for an NPC, and (b) was in all three films. Also, my first introduction to questions of canon was an illustrated version of Star Wars which included Biggs' cut scene and a still shot of him talking to Luke on Tatooine, all very interesting for an 8-year-old!

Yep, Biggs and Wedge are ubiquitous FF characters. I've also noted them at the start of FF6 with Terra, in VIII they're the recurring Galbadia soldiers who get minor boss battles with the party, and I'm quite sure they're in IX somewhere (possibly Knights of Pluto?)

*looks it up* Well, I'll be. They're NOT in IX. How odd!

As I suspected, their first appearance is VI; I've just finished V and didn't notice them anywhere.