well, since we're sharing.lassarinaSeptember 14 2009, 06:02:58 UTC
Magic is a huge kink of mine, and it's one of the reasons I love your fic so very much--you do beautiful things with it, both from a meta perspective and from a "prrrr, yes, ice during sex is quite fun" perspective.
My other big kink in FF games is status effects used for not quite the intended purpose; Blind and Silence are fantastic fun without the pesky problems of dislodged blindfolds or the issue of setting a gag correctly (nor do the spells pull hair, which both of the mundane options do). Immobilize has all manner of fun implications. Etc.
I will sit still for hours if someone wants to pet or brush my hair. Mmmmmm.
Re: well, since we're sharing.auronluSeptember 14 2009, 06:08:00 UTC
Heh.
I've also been known to use Hastega as a convenient way to prolong a quickie: to the rest of the party, they've been gone 15 minutes, but for the participants, it was 45!
Re: well, since we're sharing.auronluSeptember 14 2009, 06:15:15 UTC
P.S. Someday I must tempt you to read LHAD.
There's a lot of other stuff in it, but the original seed that spawned the whole saga was the image of Lulu ...enjoying herself as Sin...reveling in it, taking a certain professional pride in it, even while mourning the destruction she's causing.
The Hawaiian goddess Pele heavily influences my vision of Lulu.
Re: well, since we're sharing.lassarinaSeptember 14 2009, 13:59:02 UTC
It's definitely on my list of things to read! I know I read the first....six chapters or so when you had first started posting it, but what I'm planning now is to just take a big block of time, sit down, and do the entire thing in one go. But yes, this is certainly relevant to my interests. :D
Meh. I don't understand why everything anyone likes ever has to be a "kink." It's just a dilution of the word and, in my opinion, born out of ideas that run in fandom about any kink being superior and anything vanilla being inherently bad.
But a) I wasn't ranking anything as superior/inferior-- that would require me to be comparing my tastes to some other point of reference b) I don't see how "vanilla" relates my post. I suppose you could label the hair-kink as "vanilla", but...why bother? c) Possibly I still don't understand what others mean by "kink." I mean something rather deeper and more complex -- in a Jungian sense -- than "what someone really likes". However, I'm not so much interested in defining and debating labels, as exploring/evoking/expressing the thing labeled.
Er, well, I wasn't really intending to bash you or whatever. Mostly I was just making a point about fandom's relationship with kink (and how it shapes its participants understandings of what does and does not constitute as kink). I realize that you weren't ranking anything, I was mostly just commenting on a pattern I've seen. Yes, there are things we find ourselves drawn and attached to that extend beyond "what someone really likes," but what I'm reading here it doesn't seem like either has an inherent sexualization. I mean, they can both be present in erotica, which would probably lead to increased enjoyment but I don't understand why they need to be broadly classified as kink and I tend to point the finger at fandom culture for that, which was what I was grumbling about.
Meh. Sorry. I reacted strongly to the finger-pointing, while still at the same time seeing what you mean.
I've had a bucketload of analytical psychology and depth psychology and all that crap, and I had much the same reaction to Freud (or not so much Freud, as the people who came after Freud): it's not all about the sex! Some powerful feelings, obsessions, complexes are non-sexual.
Yet there is at the same time a flavor of...passion? that can only be described as sexual. Sure, those two things I identified as "kinks" affect me in non-sexual contexts. But I suddenly realized they are not only nearly always present in my erotic writing, but they are nearly always the most important, major, or at least a powerful source of sexual stimulation. They're common threads, underlying notes, like the drone of a bagpipe or the drum-beat in most rock music. Whereas sexual positions, acts, the gender of the partners vary a lot more in my writing
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I think I too have been really focusing on the elemental and nature aspects in writing, too. I think it started with you when you started out on your Auron/Lulu stuff a few years ago. I got more into after reading Mists of Avalon and a number of other books by Marion Zimmer-Bradley, not to mention a lot of extra-curricular reading on some Nordic mythology, which has to do with a Saxon character I'm writing for an LOTR-semi-smut group (it is like role playing... sorta LOL) and my buddy rhapsody11 has a character from old Britannia who ended up a companion to my Saxon (based of course in the dark ages of the Saxon invasion of the isles).
IT IS EVERYWHEREauronluSeptember 15 2009, 01:48:00 UTC
Okay, the OP was triggered after I read Justira's little Ultima ficlet which was not, in fact, pr0n, except that everyone who read it reacted to it as such.
Feel free to send me drafts of Lucil/Paine. I'm not sure what help I'd be, and I'm a little spacey about checking email, but I'd very much enjoy seeing those two in a story.
I was a very early Myst fan-- I've still got an old PowerPC Mac around partly so I can play Riven (not that I have lately, but I loved it so).
Going up the elevator to meet Katran was the first time I ever had tears in my eyes watching any movie, playing any game, or reading any book. I was THAT moved by her, primarily through her writing, which was her magic. MYST was my main fanfic fandom for years, largely centering around Katran... "I can write dreams... and they are real." What a character. I also loved Atrus' grandma, who co-wrote MYST Island with Catherine. (I so love a game world where people write books that are portals to the places they describe.)
Butting in to say: I don't know that I've ever actually seen a Lucil/Paine fic, but I've always found the idea fascinating in theory. So I'd be really curious to see what you do with them together!
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My other big kink in FF games is status effects used for not quite the intended purpose; Blind and Silence are fantastic fun without the pesky problems of dislodged blindfolds or the issue of setting a gag correctly (nor do the spells pull hair, which both of the mundane options do). Immobilize has all manner of fun implications. Etc.
I will sit still for hours if someone wants to pet or brush my hair. Mmmmmm.
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I've also been known to use Hastega as a convenient way to prolong a quickie: to the rest of the party, they've been gone 15 minutes, but for the participants, it was 45!
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There's a lot of other stuff in it, but the original seed that spawned the whole saga was the image of Lulu ...enjoying herself as Sin...reveling in it, taking a certain professional pride in it, even while mourning the destruction she's causing.
The Hawaiian goddess Pele heavily influences my vision of Lulu.
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But a) I wasn't ranking anything as superior/inferior-- that would require me to be comparing my tastes to some other point of reference
b) I don't see how "vanilla" relates my post. I suppose you could label the hair-kink as "vanilla", but...why bother?
c) Possibly I still don't understand what others mean by "kink." I mean something rather deeper and more complex -- in a Jungian sense -- than "what someone really likes". However, I'm not so much interested in defining and debating labels, as exploring/evoking/expressing the thing labeled.
Does that make sense?
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Anyway tl;dr no offense meant!
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I've had a bucketload of analytical psychology and depth psychology and all that crap, and I had much the same reaction to Freud (or not so much Freud, as the people who came after Freud): it's not all about the sex! Some powerful feelings, obsessions, complexes are non-sexual.
Yet there is at the same time a flavor of...passion? that can only be described as sexual. Sure, those two things I identified as "kinks" affect me in non-sexual contexts. But I suddenly realized they are not only nearly always present in my erotic writing, but they are nearly always the most important, major, or at least a powerful source of sexual stimulation. They're common threads, underlying notes, like the drone of a bagpipe or the drum-beat in most rock music. Whereas sexual positions, acts, the gender of the partners vary a lot more in my writing ( ... )
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Now Tae's " Big Things Come in Small Packages" goes and adds materia to vibrators so as to apply various minor elemental spells.
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Feel free to send me drafts of Lucil/Paine. I'm not sure what help I'd be, and I'm a little spacey about checking email, but I'd very much enjoy seeing those two in a story.
I was a very early Myst fan-- I've still got an old PowerPC Mac around partly so I can play Riven (not that I have lately, but I loved it so).
Going up the elevator to meet Katran was the first time I ever had tears in my eyes watching any movie, playing any game, or reading any book. I was THAT moved by her, primarily through her writing, which was her magic. MYST was my main fanfic fandom for years, largely centering around Katran... "I can write dreams... and they are real." What a character. I also loved Atrus' grandma, who co-wrote MYST Island with Catherine. (I so love a game world where people write books that are portals to the places they describe.)
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