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Nov 05, 2008 03:52

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auraxoxo November 5 2008, 15:11:59 UTC
Lucky for you that your experineces have been so pleasant.

My comments are based on my experiences and the experiences of people I know. In 11th grade my high school choir went to London and when my friends came back they were all extremely upset with how rude everone had been to them. You could asssume that my friends deserved it but, if you knew then you would know otherwise. (We were pretty much nerds, and not ones to cause trouble of any kind)The sentiment is global, that we are responsible because we don't do anything as if we can just go knock on the white house door and ask a bad president to step down. It's why the whole world is headlining Obama's victory, because they are so shocked. If it was just a minority with prejudice against Americans it wouldn't be such a big deal. I can't count teh number of posts I've seen from people in other countries talking about how stupid we are if we don't elect Obama, ect.

Someone who turned out to be a terrible leader for the country doens't make the people who voted for him stupid, it just means he was convicing. No one votes for someone they think is going to ruin their country with that in mind, they vote for the person they think will do the best job and acomplish what they want to see done. To try and twist that to say other wise is simply self serving nonsense. The world needs a scapegoat and lucky us, we're it.

As for the dubunking of terrorist connection of not, that still isn't the fault of the American people and still we get called warmongers, up until someone need our help.

Americans would be so defensive if they weren't always been attacked from every angle. We don't do enough to help the world... Why can't we mind our own business... Basically what they are saying is why can't we just do what they tell us to.

ETA: Don't think I'm right go read some of the comments on BBCnews.com to teh article with the map feature where you can see where people who are commenting are from.

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drjmaxwell November 5 2008, 15:27:16 UTC
As I said, my story was anecdotal. So are yours. Here's some data. Note the disparity between views of America and views of Americans. This was taken in 2006, when Iraq looked at its worst.

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=825

You're right that it's not that the American people are stupid for electing someone who is a warmonger and sucks, but that the guy is just convincing.

If the American people re-elect the sucking warmonger, though, you can see how that might be taken as national approval of that set of policies. I don't think it's the 2000 election that set people overseas off as much as the 2004 one.

Edit: I don't need to. If I used comments to threads on news sites as a judge of people's character, I'd assume every person in the world was a total asshole. Pretty much every article on U.S. websites has a bunch of ignorant comments to them.

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45cats November 5 2008, 15:53:08 UTC
"If Skippy the Retarded Goat won a majority of votes out of 130 million cast, you'd have a pretty good sign that a lot of the voters in that country are stupid.
You couldn't call it the action of a small group of people."

and

"You're right that it's not that the American people are stupid for electing someone who is a warmonger and sucks, but that the guy is just convincing."

Isn't that what we just did? So Obama's not a warmonger and that makes it an entirely different situation? He's a good talker. That's about it so far. Wait until he gets the security clearance of Commander in Chief. That's going to be an interesting transformation; it always is,

There tends to be a global perception of America as being an entity, not just a country. Here you can be un-American. I don't think this is true of other countries. I've never heard of anyone being un-British or un-Scandinavian. I've spent the last 7 years as an un-American, so I'm familiar with the position.

Once the rest of the world has a chance to find out more about the character and dignity of our next president-up close and personal-the voters are going to forget all bout the fact that they voted him in, just as they forgot that they re-elected Bush.

huh. I'm not sure why this came out on a white background. Highlight what you can't read please.

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drjmaxwell November 5 2008, 15:55:40 UTC
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

If Obama fucks up, I hope we toss him out in humiliation in 2012. If he fucks up and we re-elect him, then we're idiots.

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45cats November 5 2008, 16:10:15 UTC
Since we've just proven to the world we don't know the difference between a vision and a plan, I'm pretty sure the Idiot Ship sailed last night, but point taken.

The don't re-elect fuck-ups thing would be a new trend for us. One can hope. :)

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auraxoxo November 6 2008, 01:22:05 UTC
Went to your link and it means absolutely nothing. I don't believe polls of that nature can ever be accurate, especailly in countries that are supposed to be on favorable terms with America.

People lie all the time and it takes a special kind of person to come right out and say that they hate another person/people they have never met for really no reason at all. Anonymity gives little comfort, because ther is always a chance someone out there will find out you are an intollerant jerk off.

WThere comes a time when anecdotal evidence stops being anecdotal and becomes a statistic.

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