David Cameron... Fuck Off Back to Eaton

[audiopineapple]

I've been to my first ever protest! It was against the Con-Dem government's cuts in public services (unis, schools, hospitals, benefits, playgrounds, community centres and so on.) I almost didn't make it though, the other day I got soaked to the bone and felt rough when I woke up this morning at half six. I had set my alarm for then because I had

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[misspopuri]

IMO, the governments in the US and the UK both need to be cut down, I am one of those conservative Americans btw.

Free market capitalism and cutting government waste is the only way to bring about a stable economy.

[audiopineapple]

The main jist of the protest was about how public services are being cut, for instance, disability benefits for people that will never physically or mentally be capable of working, instead of the government tackling tax cheats, which costs billions and billions of pounds each year. If the government put effort into that, which they won't because of a lot of tax cheats are from the same social standings as the politicans themselves, then there wouldn't need to be cuts to services for people who actually need them.

It was mainly organised by the 'Right To Work' campaigners, and various political groups tagged along. They're campaiging for more work for both people born in Britain and migrant workers.

The biggest focus was that the public are being forced, literally, to pay for the banker's screw ups when the bankers already have their bonuses back and the top bosses earn millions and millions each year.

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The main jist of the protest was about how public services are being cut, for instance, disability benefits for people that will never physically or mentally be capable of working, instead of the government tackling tax cheats, which costs billions and billions of pounds each year.

Amen to this! I'm really worried about this right now. I recently spent a year fighting the system to prove I was disabled,I thought now I'd finally proven my health status I'd be allowed some peace to recuperate from the harrowing ordeal that is disability application in this country, but now it seems not :( I don't know what they think I'm going to live on if they cut the benfit, magic beans obviously!It's not like people chose to be too ill to work!

[audiopineapple]

It is disgraceful, one of the speakers before the protest was a disability rights activist and it did remind me of you and what you've been through

[misspopuri]

Yeah, I know what you mean by the tax cheats in government office. We have a problem with them in our country's government body under this Obama administration. A few too many tax cheats getting cabinet positions (in the treasury no less, ugh).

I have no problem with people born in Britain wanting to work, but I think your main problem is including "migrant workers" in your petitioning. In the US, migrant workers are more often than not now the illegal immigrants, and they have no legal authority to work in the US anyway. I don't know what the legal status is on migrant workers in the UK are though, so don't get mad :)

Sounds like you are getting what the US is going to be getting when the Bush Tax cuts expire at the end of this year, they are increasing your taxes because the government can't sustain its public sector programs like the NHS. Unfortunately, it would be hard to roll back your health care system since a generation or so of citizens have grown up under that totalitarianism.

[misspopuri]

Not neccesarily those in government, but some business people who 'contribute' a lot of money to political parties or to campaign funds and get preferential treatment (or a look the other way) as a result.

By migrant workers I mean those who have legally come over to the UK and have work visas, rather than those who are here illegally.

I know there was a person last year (or earlier this year, I'm not sure) who talked to an American presenter and said how the NHS was absolutly terrible but I am a huge fan of it. My nephew Nicholas was born three months early and was in hospital for a long time, the bill to take care of him will have probably run into the thousands because he was on a ventilator as his lungs were too small for him to breath and it would break my heart to think that he might have not got the care, or my sister have been in debt for decades if we didn't have the NHS. He's three years old now and is doing well though, wonderufl little lad :)

[audiopineapple]

That was me in the comment, for some reason firefox logged me out of all the sites I go to 0_0

[sherrilina]

Well there are more than one kinds of "government waste" though--personally I see that term as more applying to pork (little gifts for personal districts) and all the needless excess military spending (such as 15% of the overall budget on outdated weapons systems to fight the Soviet Union, and entity that no longer exists, and keeping nearly deserted military bases open and operational, etc), and say miring the country in unnecessary and extremely costly wars that continue to cost billions and billions for years and years, rather than things like health care and education that actually help people and do good. True, there is some waste involved (which is for instance one thing that the new health care reform tries to solve--when it says it will cut Medicare expenses, it means it will be cutting unnecessary waste/making things more efficient, not that it will cut benefits), but overall it is not money wasted, but very important (at least to me, as I consider human dignity and advancement to be important

[misspopuri]

Are you serious? Health Care Reform is not going to lower the cost of health care in the US. For that matter, Medicare has not lowered the cost of healthcare either. Doctors have been dropping their Medicare patients because they aren't getting their money for them.

Our Defense budget is the real thing the Federal Government should be worried about because it deals with National Defense and Public safety, securing the border, and making sure we enforce our already in place Federal Immigration laws. I'd rather the government spend money on defense than force its citizens to buy health insurance. No one should force you to buy anything let alone the federal government.

unchecked laissez faire free market capitalism is what got us into this whole mess in the first placeYou totally ripped that from the MSM. Regulation and oversight was what got us into the Housing crisis and bubble in the first place, not capitalism! If you want me to go further, it was the Democrats' plan for "Affordable Housing" and the subprime mortgage

[sherrilina]

Sorry, I almost forgot about this...

Are you serious? Health Care Reform is not going to lower the cost of health care in the US.

The only *objective* source on this, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), says that the Affordable Care Act WILL lower health care premiums relative to what they would be without it. The Medicare Part D program and Federal Employee Health Benefit Program both show that competition such as that created by the new Health Exchanges will lower premiums. So will some of the new ways of paying that are being tested for Medicare.

For that matter, Medicare has not lowered the cost of healthcare either. Doctors have been dropping their Medicare patients because they aren't getting their money for them.The bill WILL reduce Medicare spending. The cuts in Medicare payments to private insurance companies have already started next year, and yet the premiums paid by Medicare beneficiaries under those Medicare Advantage plans are actually down an average of 1%. The CBO said that the terms of the law

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[sherrilina]

It was too long, so...

You totally ripped that from the MSM. Regulation and oversight was what got us into the Housing crisis and bubble in the first place, not capitalism! If you want me to go further, it was the Democrats' plan for "Affordable Housing" and the subprime mortgage debacle that really took the cake. Any good businessman knows that you don't lend money to someone who can't pay it back. I'm not an Econ-major, but I know that if you spend more money than you take in, you won't get a profit or return on your investment. You can also look at California, New York, and even my home state Illinois. Our state budget has not been balanced on time since Blago first got elected in 2002. We're also not even paying our bills but that's beside the point.

Actually I didn't get it from MSN, although I know that what you say there does happen to be a myth that Fox News was perpetuating! ;). Yes, banks lent irresponsibly, but it was not because of Democratic initiatives, it was in order to supply more mortgages to bundle in the