Re: On TruthacorncoffeeApril 27 2005, 03:14:33 UTC
If all men were homosexual, it's clear that the species would stop existing. Assuming you're a normal person and you believe that it's good for humanity to continue, then this outcome would assuredly be a bad one. Hence, homosexuality is bad. (Not being homosexual, mind you, but acting homosexual. Obviously being homosexual doesn't negate the possibility of reproducing.)
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That's fairly illogical.
How do you define "acting homosexual"? I assume you mean engaging in some form of sexual intercourse. According to Kant's and your own argument, "practicing celibacy", as it doesn't further the population, would also be considered morally "bad." Do you really believe that to be the case? Perhaps you believe that all people should reproduce. However, that would undoubtedly lead to overpopulation and the depletion of needed resources throughout the world - and the human race would cease to exist. Assuming you're a normal person and you believe that it's good for humanity to continue, then this outcome would
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(Before continuing, when I said Kant has a theory he thinks shows etc., I meant that he thinks that it's a sign of moral absolutes, not that it proves it unconditionally
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Re: In responseacorncoffeeApril 27 2005, 20:05:16 UTC
Interesting. Okay, I definitely see what you mean about Kant's theory. I think I realized that, but as you said, I based my argument on the assumption that you believed it direct proof.
Give me a couple days to think about this. I feel there are some errors in your argument that I need some more time to pick apart, and I could certainly argue that fear of overpopulation is indeed well-founded (though the mention of it didn't help my argument all that much)...but to be honest, I'm just not in the mood to debate this right now. I will get back to you, though.
Anyway, it's rather odd debating someone I really don't know at all. So, hey there, nice to meet you, John - I'm Kelsey. Are you a Triviumite, too?
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anonymous
April 27 2005, 22:25:00 UTC
Hi Kelsey, I'm not a typical Triviumite, though I did go there. I was there in 8th grade, hated the place, and left. I went to St. John's in Shrewsbury for 3 years, hated that even more, ended up back at Trivium for senior year. Loved it that time around.
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The Offended Reader responds:
That's fairly illogical.
How do you define "acting homosexual"? I assume you mean engaging in some form of sexual intercourse. According to Kant's and your own argument, "practicing celibacy", as it doesn't further the population, would also be considered morally "bad." Do you really believe that to be the case? Perhaps you believe that all people should reproduce. However, that would undoubtedly lead to overpopulation and the depletion of needed resources throughout the world - and the human race would cease to exist. Assuming you're a normal person and you believe that it's good for humanity to continue, then this outcome would ( ... )
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Give me a couple days to think about this. I feel there are some errors in your argument that I need some more time to pick apart, and I could certainly argue that fear of overpopulation is indeed well-founded (though the mention of it didn't help my argument all that much)...but to be honest, I'm just not in the mood to debate this right now. I will get back to you, though.
Anyway, it's rather odd debating someone I really don't know at all. So, hey there, nice to meet you, John - I'm Kelsey. Are you a Triviumite, too?
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I'm not a typical Triviumite, though I did go there. I was there in 8th grade, hated the place, and left. I went to St. John's in Shrewsbury for 3 years, hated that even more, ended up back at Trivium for senior year. Loved it that time around.
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