School bond issue Tuesday.

Sep 18, 2006 18:26

Voters to decide $351 million APS bond package Tuesday

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wookie_x September 19 2006, 20:17:55 UTC
You're right. Let's NOT keep increasing money to schools, even though the cost of supplies and books, not to mention the living requirements of teachers, KEEPS increasing. Let's NOT keep increasing money to schools, even though our schools are over-crowded and what little education the students get is worth less and less every year. Let's NOT increase money to schools just as an object lesson to those administrators who don't know how to spend the money. Let's not concern ourselves with getting administrators in place who KNOW how to spend the money (as I stated previously). The kids won't mind. We'll just put them on welfare and put them up in prisons because they didn't get an adequate education and either couldn't get jobs in an increasingly difficult job market, or just flat out turned to crime because it was easier. Damn them for being born and having to go to school anyway! It's just STUPID to keep increasing money to schools, when there's oh so many OTHER things we can be spending our money on, like another giant iron sculpture by the freeway.

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fruitylips September 19 2006, 20:59:18 UTC
If they're wasting money then they don't actually *need* more money. They have plenty of it. It is just being wasted. Thus, giving them more money to waste is stupid. if you get the right people in place, now you're overspending, thus wasting money. If you don't you're still wasting money. Step 1 is to stop giving the people who waste money more money to waste. Luckily voters three years ago realized this and apparnetly things are better now.

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wookie_x September 19 2006, 21:01:36 UTC
If they're wasting money then they don't actually *need* more money

Tell that to the kids in the over-crowded schools here who don't have enough books to go around.

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fruitylips September 19 2006, 21:36:59 UTC
You went to APS, didn't you?

How about we tell them 'Your administrators are wasting the money that is supposed tobe educating you.'

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wookie_x September 20 2006, 00:59:28 UTC
Actually, I DIDN'T go to APS, but I know all about over-crowded schools with not enough money and too few supplies making it to the teachers AND students. I also know about the miserable wages being given to teachers, and how far that goes in a month. I'll agree, as I have said in the past, that we NEED to get administrators into place who know how to spend th money. I've said it twice, and I'll say it a third, fourth, fifth, sixth and SEVENTH. I'll say it as many times as I need to. I'll say it as many times as it takes for people to LISTEN. I'll say it here, I'll say it in public forums, I'll say it at school meetings and I'll say it in the ballot box EVERY time I vote! I will ALSO keep voting for more money to schools every time it comes up because I think it's a moral crime, not to mention social cowardice, to punish children because their administrators don't know how to spend money. Education should be the MOST important thing on EVERY ballot. I'm one of those poor, misguided souls who believe that education should receive as MUCH attention as national defense on the federal budget, both in dollar amounts AND HOW THE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. I used caps-lock on those words so that there can be NO misunderstanding about my meaning, that how the money is spent is as important as how MUCH money is allocated.

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ilcylic September 20 2006, 15:54:53 UTC
Wookie, if APS has a budget of $1,000,000 and the admins spend $950,000 on hookers and blow, does APS need more money, or better managed money?

Is it punishing the students to tell APS "Hey, you don't need more money, you need to cut down on the hookers and blow"?

Do you think doubling the budget to $2,000,000 will send the message "Hey, you guys really need to be more frugal." or will it send the message "Hey, cool. Hookers and blow are great."

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wookie_x September 20 2006, 18:32:35 UTC
Clearly I'm not getting my point across. I'll make it simple. Fire the sons of bitches who keep wasting the money and bring in people who will spend the money correctly! FIRE THEM! DON'T KEEP THEM AROUND. How hard is that to understand? When i say to get administrators who won't waste money, I MEAN FIRE THE SONS OF BITCHES WHO'RE WASTING MONEY! How hard is that to understand? GET RID OF THEM! IF YOU'RE WASTING MONEY, YOU'RE FUCKING GONE! I'll say it as many ways as I know how until I get my point across, because by ilcylic's comments, I'm clearly NOT getting it across. For this, I blame a faulty educational system that doesn't teach kids reading comprehension. If you waste money on hookers and blow.....YOU'RE FIRED! "Hey, you, with the business degree who cares about education and who knows how to spend money....Want a job?" Bring in the RIGHT people. To do that, you JUST MIGHT have to expend some money in looking. AT NO TIME DID I EVER SAY IT WAS OK TO WASTE MONEY!!!! AND I'M GETTING SICK OF PEOPLE WHO LABOR UNDER THE MISAPPREHENSION THAT THERE IS JUST ONE THING WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM, AND BY CUTTING MONEY, YOU'LL FIX IT! I'm VERY disappointed at those who're looking for a simplistic answer to a complex problem when they clearly should KNOW better!

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ilcylic September 20 2006, 18:36:45 UTC
Let me rephrase my question, since I was apparently unclear. Do you think that voting to give more money to APS is the same thing as voting to get rid of admins who waste money?

Did you, in fact, go vote yesterday? Was there anything on your ballot that said anything about firing people who waste money? If there is, I'm highly surprised, 'cause there sure as hell wasn't anything about that on mine.

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wookie_x September 20 2006, 19:10:44 UTC
Yeah, OK, clearly I'm taking an unpopular stance here. I'm saying that we have to be doing more, NOT just on a particular election for a bond issue (which I'm pleased to note passed, SINCE I VOTED FOR IT!!!) but whenever the Mayor and city councle elections (since they make some of the decisions on where the money goes), at board of education meetings (were you, in fact, aware that there is a finance board meeting coming up on the 27th? there is if you wanna go get some hookers and blow), and everywhere I can.

Since you seem to be wanting to talk specifics here, though, did you actually READ the bond proposal? Do you know where that money is supposed to be going? 4 new schools. New roofs on 11 more schools (so they won't leak when it rains). Renovations to Del Norte, Sandia, and Highland high.

We live in the desert though. I guess we don't REALLY need roofs on schools (since it never rains here), and the desert climate is marvelous at preserving things, so the renovations aren't needed. Who really needs 4 new schools, anyway? I mean, the people are saying we REALLY need 8 new schools, and if we can't do that, why even bother building new schools to begin with? What's wrong with the old ones? The teachers don't need raises. Food, rent, insurance, and gas aren't THAT expensive! They make SO much money anyway.

You're right. I shouldn't have voted for that bond. I was wrong.

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