Absolutely!fitchwitchOctober 28 2009, 12:41:03 UTC
If a prostitute who contracts with a man for paid sex then gets asked for an additional "favor", and says no, and he has sex with her anyway, SHE HAS BEEN RAPED
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The details of that story are terrifying. What I find worse though is that the poor girl could now be denied health cover. Talk about being punished for something that wasn't your fault.
On a side note, if she is denied coverage I hope someone steps up and sets up a fund to help pay for her health care. I for one would be more than willing to help at least a little and I know a lot of the people reading this would too. It is so infuriating to see society at its worst and trying to hide its collective head in the sand.
That is what horrifies me so much about Twilight. Stalking, sex while you're unconscious, being prevented from seeing friends and family? Not romantic, and yet somehow it's all anyone I work with talks about.
Huh? Twilight is not about what you are claimingladyaubergineOctober 31 2009, 02:39:46 UTC
I don't know why the book was ever brought up in this, but there was no unconscious rape ever or forced or well anything!
This is about real girl who was actually raped can we keep to the actual issue?
I live in No Cali, I am not only appalled I don't know how any person could stand by and not say something anything but I think perhaps they feared retaliation from the perps.
I don't know are we teaching our children not to enact?
We're soaking in it. But like Shakesville says, a teaspoon of activism at a time can make a difference.
I think the solution lies in the coming generations of men and women, who will be less and less tolerant of this as more men and women of this generation speak out. We may not see the end result of our work, but that doesn't make the work any less necessary.
I agree with you on principle that only a rapist is responsible for rape. But in this particular case, the school also has a lot to answer for. Why was a 19-year-old former student permitted on school property in the first place? Why were any students allowed to go outside unsupervised during the event? And why in the name of God didn't the chaperones check on a gathering of "at least 20 people" in a dim alley behind the school?
The school is massively responsible for all the things they fell down on, and none of those things make any difference to the fact that at least 15 boys considered the rape of a 15 year old such good entertainment that they stood around and watched. This is a cultural problem. There is no "on principle"; the victim of the rape is not ever responsible for being raped.
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This is about real girl who was actually raped can we keep to the actual issue?
I live in No Cali, I am not only appalled I don't know how any person could stand by and not say something anything but I think perhaps they feared retaliation from the perps.
I don't know are we teaching our children not to enact?
My son is 17....I believe he would say something.
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I think the solution lies in the coming generations of men and women, who will be less and less tolerant of this as more men and women of this generation speak out. We may not see the end result of our work, but that doesn't make the work any less necessary.
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