Does it matter if God is real?

Nov 11, 2010 22:16

Yes, more atheist blogging. Because sometimes I just can't help myself. ( Read more... )

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athenian_abroad November 12 2010, 17:39:33 UTC
[B]eing taken seriously and not considered a delusional idiot is important to me.

Understandably so! And while it probably goes without saying, it bears repeating out loud: I take you seriously and know that you are the furthest thing possible from an idiot. As for delusional...well, that's a longer conversation. :-)

I can't help noticing the character trait we share: the vast majority of Abrahamic theists believe that both of us are moral degenerates and self-indulgent rebels against the natural order of the universe who are rightly damned for all eternity. But what really stings is that they might think that we're stupid. There's gotta be something wrong with us....

But returning to substance, I hear you saying two things. First, that you experience various entities as distinct external autonomous beings. Second, that these entities actually are distinct external autonomous beings. And the relationship between the propositions is that, if the first is true and the second is false, then you must be delusional, and therefore an idiot and not someone to be taken seriously. Is that why the literal existence of these entities matters to you? Or is there more to it?

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athenian_abroad November 13 2010, 00:04:16 UTC
One very significant branch of those theists...

...who, ironically, are also believed by the vast majority of Abrahamic theists to be rightly damned for all eternity...

doesn't believe in damnation, much less over unbelief....

I wasn't thinking primarily about unbelief here. queen_in_autumn and I are damned for much racier transgressions than that. You too, of course. ;-)

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