Cold-Blooded

[astrogirl2]

Comments on "Cold Blood":

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[jaxomsride]

Actually I was relieved they did. I didn't like him.

It was more tragic than Donna but no not pointless. Amy might have forgotten him. (The logic of why she should escapes me as she remembered the others in spite of them being deleted. Yes he belonged to her timeline, but so too did the soldiers, even though it was for a much briefer time.) Big gaping logic hole for me and only really added so the Doctor will remember, hence the guilt is all his.

[astrogirl2]

I liked him a lot. *pout*

And the Doctor's handwavy explanation as to why she should remember the soldiers but not Rory was, indeed, unsatisfying. It's one of those things that clearly are that way not because it makes sense, but because it's what the scriptwriters wanted. I get the feeling that it was simply a convenient way for the show not to have to deal with her grief at losing him, and that's just... the epitome of lame.

I'm really, really hoping that it gets redeemed a very short ways down the line by bringing him back in epic fashion and actually having his (temporary!) death play a fundamentally important role in the overall story arc, or I am going to be so bitterly disappointed. What a sour note in a season that I am otherwise enjoying so very much.

[iko]

I'm actually ok as to why Amy forgets Rory but not the clerics. I can logic out in my head: Rory is too intertwined with Amy's timeline that it's much harder to hold on to those memories. The erasing and rewriting of time is more thorough and she's not a complex-enough time-space event that she could remember despite it all.

[astrogirl2]

If it were a development I liked, I could accept it. But since it's pretty much a justification for a plot twist I hated, well... :)

[iko]

I loved Rory and I really enjoy the delicious dynamic of Team TARDIS. And I thought *that* was what made it poignantly tragic. The TARDIS is much more empty without Rory and it is so sad that this burden is one that only the Doctor holds. SO SAD. Especially when he has said that no one had to die that day.

My fingers are crossed that the Doctor will find a solution and will rewrite time to write all the wrongs.

[astrogirl2]

It is sad, but it's not a satisfyingly tragic kind of sad, it's just a pointlessly random kind of sad. I love angst, but it has to be that makes a satisfying story shape, and this sure as heck didn't.

But, yes, I like to think that the Doctor will make it right. :)

[syzygy_lj]

Does the Doctor remember him, though? I was sort of under the impression that he doesn't. (I will have to watch again to be sure. Oh darn.)

I have a feeling that this isn't over. I will wait and see.

[astrogirl2]

I got the distinct impression that he does. If only from the fact that Amy, having forgotten, is perfectly cheerful, and the Doctor is subdued to the point where she observes that he's awfully quiet. He also picks up the ring box at the end, doesn't he? I'd need to watch it again, too, to be sure, but the impression I got was that he knew perfectly well what it was. Plus, you know, he's the Doctor, and if anybody is going to remember the guy who just got erased from history, it would be the Time Lord.

Anyway, I certainly hope it's not over. Moffat has a good enough story sense, I think, that I can maintain some optimism. *crosses fingers*

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[neohippie]

I was real pissed about Donna too, actually.

BUT AT LEAST DONNA ISN'T DEAD. I can fantasize that she went on to be brilliant anyway even without remembering the Doctor.

So yeah, Rory dying pisses me off worse. I am so with you there. BRING HIM BACK, SHOW, DAMN IT!

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[astrogirl2]

I believe I'm more upset about Donna, but that may just be because I knew her better, and because it was such a specifically, deliberately, targeted horrible thing to happen to her, and because it undid so much utterly wonderful character development to no good end, and...

Well. Yeah. But at least she isn't dead.

BRING BACK RORY! BRING BACK RORY!

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[kalypso_v]

I wouldn't worry too much about Rory - if he'd died in the course of the episode, yes, but he died and was immediately swallowed by the Crack in Time, which is the big season arc to be resolved on June 26. (Which is their wedding day, isn't it? Has than been stated in canon or is it just fannish assumption, I've forgotten?) Also, I don't think we've seen the last of the engagement ring, which we kept being shown. It should probably have disappeared when he was removed from the timeline, but I presume it was protected by its position on the TARDIS console, and that it didn't fall off until after his disappearance. Therefore it is tangible evidence of his existence outside the Doctor's memory. Aha!

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[astrogirl2]

If there was anything in canon about the date, I don't remember it. I kind of don't think there was.

In any case, surely you're right. There's got to be more to it than that. And that's a fairly good point about the engagement ring still existing.

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[kernezelda]

I thought the date was made quite plain in the second half of the angels eps? When Amy tried to jump the doctor after returning to the night before her wedding, which was the next day, which was June 26, only some few hours hence? I thought they made a big deal of it, with it prominently displayed on some device.

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[astrogirl2]

It's entirely possible they did and I've just completely forgotten.

[wee_warrior]

I reacted similarly, although I also thought the episode (and two parter) was rubbish, so I possibly felt even less charitable. I do think the overall solution to the season will bring him back in one way or another, though.

[astrogirl2]

I was really surprised by how much I liked the episode, which I think actually made the ending even more unwelcome. What a horrible shifting of gears for me!

I do think it's actually reasonably likely that he'll be back, which is the only thing that's mollifying me. Even so, I'd really much prefer more time with him in the TARDIS. :(

[wee_warrior]

I was really surprised by how much I liked the episode, which I think actually made the ending even more unwelcome. What a horrible shifting of gears for me!

Yes, I'd imagine that would suck! I wonder if it was partly lack of nostalgia in my case, but I really didn't engage with the episode in many ways. Nasreen was awesome, though.

Even so, I'd really much prefer more time with him in the TARDIS. :(

Agreed!

[jhall1]

Nasreen was awesome, though.

She was indeed. I had a feeling almost from the start of the first part of the story that there was going to be a Victim, and I rather feared that it would be her. It never occurred to be that it might be Rory.