Done Fluxin'

Dec 06, 2021 18:57

Well, there we have it: the finale of this whole Flux thing!

Spoilers for 'The Vanquishers' )

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jhall1 December 7 2021, 10:01:52 UTC
I thought that that last episode was rather a mess. I think having three main sets of villains was at least one too many, especially when one set, Division, wanted to destroy the universe just to get rid of the Doctor - which seemed way OTT - and the Ravagers wanted to destroy it apparently for no better reason than that they were totally insane. What I've said about the number of villains also applied to the number of instances of the Doctor, as far as I was concerned. And at the end, I couldn't really understand why the chief Ravager - or goddess of Time or whatever she was supposed to be - wouldn't kill the Doctor when she had the chance ( ... )

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astrogirl2 December 7 2021, 21:28:49 UTC
I thought that that last episode was rather a mess

Oh, I don't remotely disagree. But at least I found it an entertaining mess, for the most part, and, I'll be honest, that's actually a lot better than what I was prepared for.

And at the end, I couldn't really understand why the chief Ravager - or goddess of Time or whatever she was supposed to be - wouldn't kill the Doctor when she had the chance.

I strongly suspect that whatever that was, we might see it again, so maybe there will be an answer forthcoming there, but I'm not holding my breath. I see I neglected to mention it in the post, but that was for sure one of the things I found unsatisfying. Mind you, at this point, if Chibnall ever ends a story with something other than "and then the bad guys just get defeated or give up somehow, the end" I'm likely to be shocked.

We were given the impression that the greater part of the universe had been destroyed by the Flux, which surely ought to have serious consequences from now on.There was some discussion of this in the comments ( ... )

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jhall1 December 7 2021, 21:52:14 UTC
"They made such a big deal of clearly and explicitly pointing out that they could, would, and were going to reverse the Flux in order to run things back and forth..."

They did? I'm afraid that totally passed me by. Not that I can see how you could possibly undestroy what you'd already destroyed anyway - unless you could somehow reverse time.

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astrogirl2 December 7 2021, 21:56:50 UTC
Yeah, they told the Doctor that's what they were going to do, and then they sort of demonstrated it on her. And apparently Time is their friend or their boss or their treacherous ally or... something? So maybe reversing time is exactly how they do it.

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jhall1 December 7 2021, 21:58:47 UTC
Is "they" Swarm and Azure, then?

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astrogirl2 December 7 2021, 22:11:44 UTC
Oh, yes, sorry! They were the ones in control of it.

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