I've spent so much time looking at and reediting this post, I am no longer sure it makes any sense. And, yes, the DVDs come out tomorrow, your point
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I haven't checked my DVD's out thoroughly, but I think the extended cut is the only version we get. Which is why I still have the original on the DVR. ;)
Unfortunately, the way season three was actually presented made the whole story line... basically non-existent. He was fat, there were jokes, then he wasn't. I understood what I was supposed to think about the weight gain, but it was never really supported on the show.
I completely agree with you. I always had an idea of what Ron was attempting to show and he certainly tried to explain in the podcasts what his intent was since we weren't seeing it on screen, but this extended cut did give me some concrete examples of why Lee became the man he was in early season 3. That he shared with Kara something he had never shared with another human being and then have her abandon him, something in him broke and he just said, "screw it". He created this life he had expected to lead and everyone else expected him to lead - military commander, married man, example for the fleet - but his attitude and weight gain showed he had stopped caring.
Dee's in love, but I really didn't think (don't want to believe) that she'd accept marriage without the good faith that Lee really loved her, too. I just... ugh, why add this in? It makes their marriage even more of a sham than it was before, and makes her holding on to it as long as she did an act of utter futility.
I have issues with any woman who would marry a man that they love, but they know doesn't love them in return. It's degrading and it's not going to end well. And she doesn't even seem to be aware that she's settling. As much as I love Lee, he really is no prize!
And I agree, if she knew full well what she was getting herself into, as this added scene shows, and believed her husband was going to walk out on her someday then why does she fight to save her marriage? And how can she seem so hurt when what she thought was inevitable almost becomes reality?
Hm, I'm hoping my thoughts don't come off as being too anti-Lee, especially since I'm in your LJ. Sometimes I'm a bit too Kara > everyone else. I'm pleased to have stumbled across this entry; your analysis helped clarify some ideas I've had bouncing around my head for a while.
No, your thoughts don't come off as anti-Lee at all. And I welcome criticism of Lee because sometimes I think I'm a bit more positive than I should be about him. I really hadn't intended to rationalize his behavior as much as I did.
unfortunately, it didn't give me any more desire to see the extended cut of UB... but I was already feeling that way before reading, heh.
I dreaded watching this extended cut. I've never had to force myself to watch BSG before. And while I don't know if I'll ever watch it again, it did help me understand a few things better so it was worth the hour and fifteen minutes of torture. ;)
Unfortunately, the way season three was actually presented made the whole story line... basically non-existent. He was fat, there were jokes, then he wasn't. I understood what I was supposed to think about the weight gain, but it was never really supported on the show.
I completely agree with you. I always had an idea of what Ron was attempting to show and he certainly tried to explain in the podcasts what his intent was since we weren't seeing it on screen, but this extended cut did give me some concrete examples of why Lee became the man he was in early season 3. That he shared with Kara something he had never shared with another human being and then have her abandon him, something in him broke and he just said, "screw it". He created this life he had expected to lead and everyone else expected him to lead - military commander, married man, example for the fleet - but his attitude and weight gain showed he had stopped caring.
Dee's in love, but I really didn't think (don't want to believe) that she'd accept marriage without the good faith that Lee really loved her, too. I just... ugh, why add this in? It makes their marriage even more of a sham than it was before, and makes her holding on to it as long as she did an act of utter futility.
I have issues with any woman who would marry a man that they love, but they know doesn't love them in return. It's degrading and it's not going to end well. And she doesn't even seem to be aware that she's settling. As much as I love Lee, he really is no prize!
And I agree, if she knew full well what she was getting herself into, as this added scene shows, and believed her husband was going to walk out on her someday then why does she fight to save her marriage? And how can she seem so hurt when what she thought was inevitable almost becomes reality?
Hm, I'm hoping my thoughts don't come off as being too anti-Lee, especially since I'm in your LJ. Sometimes I'm a bit too Kara > everyone else. I'm pleased to have stumbled across this entry; your analysis helped clarify some ideas I've had bouncing around my head for a while.
No, your thoughts don't come off as anti-Lee at all. And I welcome criticism of Lee because sometimes I think I'm a bit more positive than I should be about him. I really hadn't intended to rationalize his behavior as much as I did.
unfortunately, it didn't give me any more desire to see the extended cut of UB... but I was already feeling that way before reading, heh.
I dreaded watching this extended cut. I've never had to force myself to watch BSG before. And while I don't know if I'll ever watch it again, it did help me understand a few things better so it was worth the hour and fifteen minutes of torture. ;)
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