I've spent so much time looking at and reediting this post, I am no longer sure it makes any sense. And, yes, the DVDs come out tomorrow, your point
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that was a long read and i agree with most of your thoughts:
Dee really shouldn’t have told him to stay behind and get drunk. that's a thing i still wonder about! why did she make him stay - especially when she knew that there was something between lee and kara?! she could have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble: lee, kara, anders, herself, me... if she hadn't talked him into staying (though i didn't mind to see me some semi-nekkid lee *heee*)
seriously, I think his parents marriage really frakked him up so say we all! and let's not forget that his mother wasn't of the caring type. everyone brags about starbuck's awful childhood (which it was - her mother was straight outta hell!) but we know that lee's mother had issues too. she was an alcoholic and probably blamed her children for her frakked up life. we don't know about any abuse but it's possible, isn't it?
Not only do I prefer the ambiguity of what Dee did or didn’t know, it paints Kara in a very bad light - intentionally hurting Dee just to piss Lee off more. kara bites around herself, hurting everyone she can in the process and only to make lee more miserable. but why would she do that?! lee offered himself to her, totally opened himself up and he wanted her. she dumped him and she chose to do so in the most painful and disrespectful way any writer could think of.
and now we come to the reason why i really dislike UB: someone did that to me, i'd never talk to that person again, never! i just don't get the i missed you, too at the ending of the episode - i just don't get it! after all the hurt, all the pain and the way she behaved during the dance... nope... don't get it!
but although i'm not a shipper of any pairing and i really do think that lee and kara are bad for each other and i want lee to be in a healthy, happy and steady relationship, i have to admit that the two of them really have chemistry - they had the hottest scenes i've ever seen on tv - eye of jupiter had me blushing! compared to those scenes all the lee/dee moments make me cringe 'cause there's nothing between them. but that's just my point of view and i don't want to flame any lee/dee fans.
why did she make him stay - especially when she knew that there was something between lee and kara?! she could have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble: lee, kara, anders, herself, me... if she hadn't talked him into staying
And it seemed to me that Lee really did want to go with her. Granted, it probably was because he feared what could happen if left alone with Kara, but he did attempt to put temptation out of his reach. I'm also perplexed that we are to believe Dee is well aware of Lee's feelings for Kara, but his state the next morning, both emotional and physical, didn't tip her off that he was unfaithful to her? ::is confused::
we don't know about any abuse but it's possible, isn't it?
I think Jamie has intimated that he believes Lee may have suffered physical abuse, but I think it's clear she was at least emotionally abusive.
compared to those scenes all the lee/dee moments make me cringe 'cause there's nothing between them. but that's just my point of view and i don't want to flame any lee/dee fans.
There are Lee/Dee fans? I kid! I kid! But I do agree that one thing, besides most of the scenes that developed their relationship ending up on the cutting room floor, is that I never saw much chemistry between the two. When they kiss, I feel nothing. Hell, I think Lee has more chemistry with Sam or Helo. ;)
Dee really shouldn’t have told him to stay behind and get drunk.
that's a thing i still wonder about! why did she make him stay - especially when she knew that there was something between lee and kara?! she could have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble: lee, kara, anders, herself, me... if she hadn't talked him into staying (though i didn't mind to see me some semi-nekkid lee *heee*)
seriously, I think his parents marriage really frakked him up
so say we all! and let's not forget that his mother wasn't of the caring type. everyone brags about starbuck's awful childhood (which it was - her mother was straight outta hell!) but we know that lee's mother had issues too. she was an alcoholic and probably blamed her children for her frakked up life. we don't know about any abuse but it's possible, isn't it?
Not only do I prefer the ambiguity of what Dee did or didn’t know, it paints Kara in a very bad light - intentionally hurting Dee just to piss Lee off more.
kara bites around herself, hurting everyone she can in the process and only to make lee more miserable. but why would she do that?! lee offered himself to her, totally opened himself up and he wanted her. she dumped him and she chose to do so in the most painful and disrespectful way any writer could think of.
and now we come to the reason why i really dislike UB: someone did that to me, i'd never talk to that person again, never! i just don't get the i missed you, too at the ending of the episode - i just don't get it! after all the hurt, all the pain and the way she behaved during the dance... nope... don't get it!
but although i'm not a shipper of any pairing and i really do think that lee and kara are bad for each other and i want lee to be in a healthy, happy and steady relationship, i have to admit that the two of them really have chemistry - they had the hottest scenes i've ever seen on tv - eye of jupiter had me blushing! compared to those scenes all the lee/dee moments make me cringe 'cause there's nothing between them.
but that's just my point of view and i don't want to flame any lee/dee fans.
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And it seemed to me that Lee really did want to go with her. Granted, it probably was because he feared what could happen if left alone with Kara, but he did attempt to put temptation out of his reach. I'm also perplexed that we are to believe Dee is well aware of Lee's feelings for Kara, but his state the next morning, both emotional and physical, didn't tip her off that he was unfaithful to her? ::is confused::
we don't know about any abuse but it's possible, isn't it?
I think Jamie has intimated that he believes Lee may have suffered physical abuse, but I think it's clear she was at least emotionally abusive.
compared to those scenes all the lee/dee moments make me cringe 'cause there's nothing between them. but that's just my point of view and i don't want to flame any lee/dee fans.
There are Lee/Dee fans? I kid! I kid! But I do agree that one thing, besides most of the scenes that developed their relationship ending up on the cutting room floor, is that I never saw much chemistry between the two. When they kiss, I feel nothing. Hell, I think Lee has more chemistry with Sam or Helo. ;)
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*rofl*
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