gw/hp plotbunny...
So the other day I had a long rambly convo about a Gundam Wing/Harry Potter crossover. Not going to write it, nooo way, but it ended up pretty fun to think about anyway. Also with some complaining/pondering about abuse in fanfic and stuff.
shewhoflies:
....I've read some really depressing Naruto fics lately ;___;
askerian:
*pets*
shewhoflies:
and why is it so hard to find good HP fic???
askerian:
too much of it? idk ._.
shewhoflies:
I find a promising one, timetravel or AU or what have you, and then I get to an interesting chapter and there goes a kid laying down on an adult and no one answers appropriately!
askerian:
?_?
shewhoflies:
I mean, remember that scene in the first book/movie where the trio warns McGonagall of the danger the stone is in, and she pats them on the head and tells them it's alright?
askerian:
yes?
shewhoflies:
the thing is.
shewhoflies:
that was the "correct" response.
shewhoflies:
it really shows in the movie.
shewhoflies:
three little kids with high little-kid voices, saying that sort of thing?
shewhoflies:
it's really really hard to take them seriously.
askerian:
aha yes good point
shewhoflies:
it should take an exceptional person to accept the information they're saying.
shewhoflies:
it happens a lot in these fics
shewhoflies:
the kids will show up, say "I know what to do!" and the adults step aside and allow them to go ahead.
shewhoflies:
or the kids will insult an adult ultrageously, and the response is never satisfactiory -- no one reacts as though they are kids doing this stuff!
askerian:
yeah
askerian:
there's definitely an element of wish fulfilment, they identify with the kids so they want them to get to be awesome and do stuff and be admired, and at the same time THEY know the kids are right so it's hard to imagine that other characters might not think so from the limited info they have
askerian:
unreliable narrator is hard to grasp for a lot of people
askerian:
also i'm typing without my glasses and can barley read the letters
askerian:
just saying
askerian:
woo scratchy eye
askerian:
/random
shewhoflies:
hahaha
shewhoflies:
*hughugpet*
shewhoflies:
wow, you make so much sense!
shewhoflies:
I hadn't thought of the unrealiable narrator being hard to grasp angle.
shewhoflies:
thanks for your input *__*
shewhoflies:
oh hey gummies
askerian:
i mean from their point of view they know that the kid is being 100% truthful and that it's IMPORTANT OMG, but from the outside, especially young kids will say a lot of shit anyway
shewhoflies:
oh yeah.
shewhoflies:
and I mean, it was probably a pivotal point for Harry.
shewhoflies:
or should have been since JK didn't elaborate on it.
shewhoflies:
but considering that he was abused by the Dursleys and was still with them...
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
it was probably the first time ever he was going to a figure of authority with something he thought was important.
askerian:
yeah ;;
askerian:
tho really JKR didnt think through the repercussions of his abuse in his characterization :-\
shewhoflies:
true. a lot of people tried to make it more important in fic, but I'll have to say that a lot of them failed really badly.
askerian:
yeeeeah :-X
shewhoflies:
hey, did you ever read the fic where the GW boys try to raise Harry?
askerian:
which? there's several
askerian:
and i'd say no, or if i did i deliberately forgot it
shewhoflies:
really? any good?
askerian:
i don't like gw/hp crossovers. the timelines don't mesh so it bothers me
shewhoflies:
hm-hmmm.
shewhoflies:
I think it'd take a bit of work to make it work, but it could be done.
askerian:
most of them seemed like excuse to have cool older brother types beat up people harry didn't like and/or yay let's give very fanon versions of the gboys the occasion to totally fuck with the magical world
askerian:
yeah but i haven't seen it yet ;p
shewhoflies:
the easiest way would be throw away the GW timeline and adapt the story to our world.
shewhoflies:
simutaneously throwing out most of the current history.
shewhoflies:
the GW characters fill the void left by the real people who'd have to be on Harry's background, bery convinient.
askerian:
yeah but then they lose all the background that makes them THEM and become random OCs
askerian:
pretty stu-tastic too. and harry is hardly un-sueish himself
askerian:
it's a lot of speshul in one fic. XD
shewhoflies:
pffft.
shewhoflies:
it could still work!
askerian:
yeah, maybe
shewhoflies:
for a militaristic Harry going to Hogwarts.
shewhoflies:
maybe.
shewhoflies:
let's see, Quatre is eventually CEO of a powerful international company
askerian:
:-X
askerian:
yeah, an arabic one
askerian:
what's he doing in england? okay he could be going to university over there. XD
shewhoflies:
heck, he could just be managing stuff.
shewhoflies:
wait, the war did happen -- at the same time that Voldemort did.
shewhoflies:
there were no Gundams!
shewhoflies:
no space battles.
shewhoflies:
the GW boys where even more terrorists than in GW itself
askerian:
idk, without the gundams they couldn't affect things half as much
shewhoflies:
...Treize was focused on Europe.
askerian:
and they're all different nationalities, they'd be on different sides
askerian:
wufei would have no reason to be around, and maybe not even heero
shewhoflies:
nah, they're all going against Treize.
askerian:
heero is japanese but the blue eyes, he could be half russian, but that's still pretty far away
askerian:
hm. :-X
shewhoflies:
Heero is there because J is testing out his soldier toy.
shewhoflies:
Wufei went there due to two debts of honor: the first, to kill Treize since Treize defeated his Clan head in a martial battle, and the second, to help the scientist who Treize is pressuring.
shewhoflies:
how did Meiran die?
askerian:
in battle? i don't think it was treize, it was romafeller tho
askerian:
j isn't that much of an asshole to heero, he likes the kid actually
askerian:
and he wouldn't waste him on a potentially deadly conflict if he's not getting anything from it
shewhoflies:
maybe treize has a hit out on the 5 mad ones?
askerian:
get him treize as an actual enemy then it'll work
askerian:
hm. why not. why? what do they do that's dangerous to him?
askerian:
what is he anyway, mundane human or wizard?
shewhoflies:
well, j for one is creating super-soldiers.
askerian:
hm.
shewhoflies:
hmm, I'm inclined to think they're all at least thought to be mundane, operating on the mundane world, and so they nearly don't affect the wizard world.
shewhoflies:
Trowa is still a mercenary who fought on those neverending wars in Africa.
askerian:
that works for him
askerian:
it's real hard to imagine them all concentrating on england though
shewhoflies:
I doubt they would.
askerian:
but anyway let's imagine they're all here. now what? how do they (which one, they're not a group yet are they?) meet harry? why do they come to care?
shewhoflies:
I'm thinking they met each other, not all at once, and ...pinged.
shewhoflies:
hey, we are alike, you are interesting, you saved me/I saved you, let's keep in touch
askerian:
that's hard to do convincingly, and not as a background detail to explain away how it happened. hm.
askerian:
considering how different their backgrounds and motives and self images are they'd need a lot of external pressure
askerian:
XD okay i'll stop critting everything. it's a reflex i swear
shewhoflies:
I like this reflex.
shewhoflies:
it makes me think.
askerian:
^^ <3<3<3
shewhoflies:
don't stop critting, please.
askerian:
ahaha okay then XD
shewhoflies:
let's say they all went to England during the Treize thing.
shewhoflies:
Wufei is out for his blood.
askerian:
hmm okay
shewhoflies:
Heero is there to monitor things, gather info and sabotage.
askerian:
could def. blame him for meiran. whoops so sorry necessary sacrifices~
askerian:
hmm idk. sabotage yes but hrrrrrrm idk
shewhoflies:
Trowa got a contract to work for la resistence and decided he wanted out of this hell anyway.
askerian:
that works for him
askerian:
duo's based in the states though and he's a street rat so hmm
shewhoflies:
ends up hopping out on the resistence too, runs away with the circus.
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
LOL
shewhoflies:
Quatre is going through a very rebellious and idealistic phase and decides that funneling money is not enough, I have training so I'll fight too.
askerian:
lol
askerian:
in a modern world it's harder to justify him even having the money though
askerian:
is the war public or sneaky?
shewhoflies:
I think sneaky
shewhoflies:
Treize is a political candidate with dreams of uniting Europe and people don't notice that he's actually doing it.
askerian:
so then how would he know about it and how would it affect him?
askerian:
because there's more or less well internationally-known wars every day in the world
askerian:
why this one?
shewhoflies:
he was there.
askerian:
what's wrong with uniting europe the way treize does it that bothers him so much?
shewhoflies:
universtity in England?
askerian:
okay, but as a student how does he have access to that kind of intel?
askerian:
maybe he gets involved via a chance meeting with trowa
shewhoflies:
he's still the future CEO of his international company
askerian:
who stumbles bleeding and dazed through his window
askerian:
yeah but they'd start trying to pull him out of the country
shewhoflies:
I thought he'd start smelling something fishy when Relena becomes a puppet.
askerian:
he's got responsibilities to his company and thousands of employees and his poor country that he can't fulfill is he gets himself killed in some random war in some other country
shewhoflies:
oh hey she's the Queen of England! o__O
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmm maybe just a princess
shewhoflies:
anyway Treize's trying to control her and Quatre thinks that's not right
askerian:
idk why but replacing the queen ... sacrilegious!! XD it's ridiculous, the HP world is not actually taking place irl
shewhoflies:
really?
askerian:
but how does helping her equal fighting the whole war?
askerian:
XD
shewhoflies:
it doesn't, but he'll get all fired up for that, won't he?
askerian:
i mean he could offer her a way out, like safe passage to his own country or some other resources, but that doesn't necesarily translate to "i will throw all my resources into getting this man dead/locked up/stopped at all costs"
askerian:
personally yes, he'll be all hssst, but he has a duty to his people too
shewhoflies:
I'm actually thinking... you know all those meetings where the five gboys stay at one of Quatre's safehouses that never happened on the show?
askerian:
yeah?
shewhoflies:
Quatre doesn't need to fight the war. he can sneakily help them by providing safehouses though.
shewhoflies:
and then he meets Trowa.
askerian:
yeah, good if quatre doesn't get involved much with the dirty work (though assassins or something would be right surprised if they decide to go after one of the operatives' backers and he turns out to be quite able to defend himself XD that'd be pretty badass)
shewhoflies:
oh I'd love that scene.
shewhoflies:
and it's hard for Wufei to hide his sword (gotta kill Treize with the sword.)
askerian:
not really XD he's in england! could pretend it's an umbrella XDDDDDD
shewhoflies:
hey XDDDD
askerian:
anyway without gundams to pilot it makes sense if quatre then becomes the one who provides the political and dirty deals backgrounds and moneylender and safehouse suggester
shewhoflies:
it's his main strength aside of piloting anyway
askerian:
wufei would probably feel it was shameful to disguise his sword though,but even in canon he doesn't always have it at hand
askerian:
if he's planning to go after treize then yes he'd take it along, but he would also be sneaking around so that's not bad
shewhoflies:
hmmm. Heero and Duo probably arrive together at the safehouse due to an epic mess. XD
askerian:
okay so how to get duo there at all.
askerian:
oh hey
askerian:
duo is working for howard, who does sneaky weapon traffic all over the world
shewhoflies:
I was thinking Duo....either he's here because it's a party, or he's got a job that involves killing someone on Treize's turf, or he was nearly caught by the feds and decided to have a vacation, or he was caught by the feds and Treize wants him...
shewhoflies:
oh hey, that works well!
askerian:
he delivers a shipment of weapons, things turn south, duo has seen too much and/or he sees something that really pisses him off, hey howie that guy's bad for business let me off him
shewhoflies:
DX
shewhoflies:
we can even have the scene where Duo and Heero nearly shoot each other and afterwards Heero saves him
askerian:
like, some of treize's men do real bad stuff in his name? or they use his rep as his followers to dodge consequences from, idk, underage prostitutes or abusive behavior, that'd piss duo off pretty badly
askerian:
ahaha yes
askerian:
and then he's all "well howie you remember we have this policy of only selling to guys if we can halfway agree their cause is just and those guys got our weapons on false pretenses i'm gonna fix that"
shewhoflies:
woooow
askerian:
everyone thinks duo is just some random kid deliveryman but actually he's more like howard's heir/right hand man so he has a LOT of pull
shewhoflies:
^o^
askerian:
howard is planning to leave him the whole empire of shady deals with he retires on his island in the pacific XD
askerian:
works? XD
shewhoflies:
XDDDD you go boy u.u-b
askerian:
okay then they're all here
askerian:
though heero hrrm
askerian:
actually maybe heero was still with odin lowe
shewhoflies:
okay?
askerian:
the hired killer who raised him as a kid
shewhoflies:
I was thinking maybe Zechs is stolen work of J's, but?
askerian:
in canon odin regretted being made to kill the pacifist heero yuy by Septem who was from Oz, and he turned against oz, but he was killed, so heero finished that mission for him
askerian:
it'd be easy to just move that event from heero's 8 year old to 18 or whatever age they are
askerian:
hmmm zechs
askerian:
oh man zechs is totally a prince of england
askerian:
if relena is, i mean
shewhoflies:
XXDDDDD
shewhoflies:
okay
askerian:
...
askerian:
quatre is totally a wizard
shewhoflies:
honestly I can totally see Relena as princess of England.
shewhoflies:
ehhhhhhhhhhh?
askerian:
the other gboys are baffled as to how his hideouts are NEVER found but he's rich and mysterious
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
also he was from north africa and they teach magic differently there
askerian:
he has a lot of notice me not and healing spells but he doesn't use a wand
shewhoflies:
ooohhh!! *___*
askerian:
also the empathy
shewhoflies:
you're right.
shewhoflies:
totally a wizard.
askerian:
he can't do european spells, really, but his magic is more instinctive and closer to children's natural magic
shewhoflies:
*__*
askerian:
and then we have a connection to the local wizarding life. XD
shewhoflies:
could Duo or Trowa be wizards who escaped throught the cracks?
askerian:
even if nothing happens during the war, after the war the aurors could still drop in XD
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmm
askerian:
trowa would totally be a squib.
shewhoflies:
and as for Heero, the man who jumps off buildings and bends steel....
shewhoflies:
why a squib?
askerian:
heero might be a wizard, with that unnatural strength -- oh oh OH he's not a wizard, he's part something not human
shewhoflies:
*________*
askerian:
idk, he gives me that feeling like he knows magic but it kinda flows around him? also he was abandoned sorta
shewhoflies:
D-:
askerian:
possibly something japanese or russian. probably japanese, ahaha oh god part kitsune heero. no, he's WAY not playful enough
askerian:
... YUKIONNA
shewhoflies:
OMG.
askerian:
HEERO
askerian:
ICE MAIDEN
shewhoflies:
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
askerian:
THIS IS LITERALLY PERFECT
shewhoflies:
LOL
askerian:
NOTHING CAN BE MORE PERFECT
askerian:
this is now my headcanon now and forever amen.
shewhoflies:
see how it was a good thing we kept pushing at this?
askerian:
yes!
askerian:
and ahaha duo could also have a little something extra
askerian:
i dunno what though
shewhoflies:
okay
askerian:
he's not native american so it's a bit appropriating to stick him with something from that folklore
shewhoflies:
huh, pity he's not japanese, he could be a kitsune
askerian:
unless we say he's like half indian but idk that bugs me a bit. :-\
askerian:
haha yes
askerian:
american i'd go with Coyote but Coyote is a deity not a species. XD he does the trickster thing though
shewhoflies:
wouldn't it be a matter of the land rather than the ethnics?
askerian:
one of my friends had done the gw boys as fae creatures and duo was a raven/death spirit
shewhoflies:
huh.
askerian:
oooooh that's an interesting point
askerian:
but i'd think he would also need to be raised in those beliefs for them to anchor in
shewhoflies:
hmmm. gipsy contact?
shewhoflies:
gypsy?
askerian:
hrrrm they're actually european/north african
shewhoflies:
yeah but some of them moved to America
askerian:
yeah but idk. the stereotypes hrrrm.
askerian:
maybe duo is just naturally badass. XD
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
or okay, HE can be an untrained wizard XD
shewhoflies:
<3
askerian:
quatre was trained, only in his own country's traditions
askerian:
heero is part non-human
askerian:
trowa idk, and wufei, i could see it like some in his clan were wizard and everyone knew it and it was a pretty normal spiritual thing but wufei wasn't
shewhoflies:
I see!
askerian:
but he's fine with it because sword and martial arts master, who cares about divination or cursing people, those are cowardly things
shewhoflies:
LOL
askerian:
u.u
shewhoflies:
I can see him saying that.
askerian:
hahaha toward the end of the war they find out quatre's a wizard, and everyone is o_o except wufei who's like... yes, and?
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
duo, well, he's one but he never NOTICED
askerian:
heero might know he's weird, idk
shewhoflies:
...he bent steel. with his hands someone would have warned him at that point
askerian:
he doesn't ping me as questioning himself much XDDD
askerian:
but yeah, i think secretly he's aware he's abnormal but idk if he would think on it too hard instead of living in the moment
shewhoflies:
hmm, good point.
askerian:
and then when they figure it out in detail he's like "... oh. Hm. Wonder if i can use it somehow."
askerian:
BUT OKAY how do we get them to meet harry XD
shewhoflies:
*sigh* of course.
shewhoflies:
Harry.
shewhoflies:
I was thinking.
shewhoflies:
the defeating Voldemort thing.
askerian:
hmm?
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
and the surviving the Killing Curse thing.
shewhoflies:
how important would they be considered.
shewhoflies:
I'm thinking.
shewhoflies:
either Duo or Quatre would notice this abandoned kid.
shewhoflies:
they're the ones most likely to go rawr at it.
shewhoflies:
they'd make sure an investigation was initiated.
shewhoflies:
depending on the level of abuse we choose to use, things might go this or that way, but....
shewhoflies:
might the whole Boy-Who-Lived thing land his file on Relena's desk?
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
askerian:
ahaha maybe the unconscious magic quatre and duo and heero were throwing around means they get invited to the ministry to discuss their case and whether they did breach the statute of secrecy or whatevet it's called
shewhoflies:
pffffffft
askerian:
and duo's all "haha shyeah right fuck that noise i'mma gonna visit this here street" and he meets harry with the dursleys. but that means harry'd be about to enter school
askerian:
i just can't see the convenient neighbor thing because quatre, living in a middle class suburbian premade house?
askerian:
oh, maybe quatre buys grunnings!
shewhoflies:
I was thinking, visiting somewhere and Harry would be conviniently visiting the same place
askerian:
and there's a dinner thing where everyone meets the new CEO and brings the wife and kids and the dursleys couldn't find a sitter so they have to bring harry
shewhoflies:
but buying Grunnings has potential
askerian:
they leave him in the car
askerian:
D:
shewhoflies:
DDDD':
askerian:
duo: *kinda hates those big moneybag meetings and also he doesn't feel like he fits with people who work mundane daily jobs and notices him while stalking around in the dark"
shewhoflies:
*_______*
askerian:
or maybe trowa, or duo and trowa were taking a perimeter walk and chatting, oh hey kid in car. :-X
shewhoflies:
hahahahahahaha, the five of them are pretty much living together on and off by this point, aren't they.
askerian:
yessss.
askerian:
duo might sometimes disappear because he does run his own business on the side!
shewhoflies:
<3<3<3<3<3
askerian:
in my head this has totally devolved into a big poly orgy, you do realize.
shewhoflies:
<3333333333333333
shewhoflies:
omg you'll have togive me details eventually
askerian:
anyway duo and trowa break harry out of the car and they're calmly pissed off about this and bring him in the house and feed him cake and oh hey mr dursley *fake smile* apparently you forgot your nephew in your car but no worries those things happen!!!*
shewhoflies:
*______*
askerian:
after this point quatre makes it a point of asking after harry when he has reasons to see dursley around. >_> pointedly.
shewhoflies:
socool
askerian:
and then the aurors are like "okay we all agreed that you did not act as wizard during the last war and so you werne't under our laws but we been noticing your magical auras around harry potter recently what the fuck" and the five are all "... tell us more about this harry potter."
askerian:
because up until then they pretty much didn't give a crap about the wizarding world and their weird reclusive behavior
shewhoflies:
ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh *______*
askerian:
and then duo probably starts wandering down privet drive. it's a shortcut to go to his job! seriously!
shewhoflies:
you're tying things so incredibly nicely <3
askerian:
okay not really but it's a scenic route!
askerian:
hahaha <3
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
it's so fun
shewhoflies:
I'm glad! <3
askerian:
we need to get heero and fei involved
askerian:
... what are a yukionna's powers again
shewhoflies:
yukionna are associated with snow.
askerian:
Despite her inhuman beauty, her eyes can strike terror into mortals.
XD
askerian:
yeah but apart from that
shewhoflies:
I'm pretty sure when they get upset things freeze.
askerian:
Some legends say the Yuki-onna, being associated with winter and snowstorms, is the spirit of someone who perished in the snow.[5] She is at the same time beautiful and serene, yet ruthless in killing unsuspecting mortals.
SO HEERO.
askerian:
yeah but heero doesn't get upset
askerian:
i was thinking maybe he'd be attracted by harry's power
shewhoflies:
hoho!
askerian:
What Yuki-onna is after varies from tale to tale. Sometimes she is simply satisfied to see a victim die. Other times, she is more vampiric, draining her victims' blood or "life force." She occasionally takes on a succubus-like manner, preying on weak-willed men to drain or freeze them through sex or a kiss.[3]
shewhoflies:
o__o
askerian:
if heero's yukionna is a little on the vampiric side he could be a little baffled and pretty intrigued by what he feels from that kid. okay, he's ... interesting. huh. but, a kid, so trying anything to steal that energy from him doesn't even register as a possibility
askerian:
but it's like heero is half vampire and oh hey this kid has warm yummy blood. he's not hungry since he can live on human food, he's just aware?
shewhoflies:
I see
shewhoflies:
interesting!
askerian:
to him it'd be a fairly distant thing since he's like one fourth or one eight but it can provide DRAMA later on when the wizarding world tries to get custody back. liek le gasp pedophile life draining monster using harry potter as a living food source!!!
askerian:
heero: ... thefuck. :-\
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
it'd totally be a malfoy thing to bring up wouldn't it
shewhoflies:
it would.
shewhoflies:
oh em gee.
shewhoflies:
Trowa would identify a little with the abandoned kid
shewhoflies:
enough to provide company but not enough to seek it our
shewhoflies:
out
askerian:
yeah
askerian:
quatre would be pissed off since he feels paternal/protective toward his employees and it pisses him off that he'd be sheltering an abusive one but he can't really fire him for things he has no way of legally knowing
askerian:
also it wouldn't improve harry's situation any
shewhoflies:
heee I like!
askerian:
hell if vernon was suddenly unemployed he'd have more time and more rage to abuse harry with
shewhoflies:
DX
askerian:
yeah :-\
askerian:
anyway i'm not sure how they'd get custody
shewhoflies:
huh
shewhoflies:
Duo could start out by hey, lady, wanna let me take your kid for a spin?
shewhoflies:
and take Harry around
askerian:
unless it's unofficial custody where he's still nominally the dursleys' ward so dumbledore has no reason to interfere, but he's being sent off to play with duo/trowa/whever else since 1) it makes vernon's boss happy and 2) vernon is vaguely thinking they're probably pedos but who the fuck cares it means harry is not at their house
shewhoflies:
and teach him how to behave himself
shewhoflies:
the fuck XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
askerian:
i mean, unrelated adults who want to spend a lot of time with a kid? suspicious as hell
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
though i dunno if vernon would be THAT evil. hmm.
askerian:
unless he was like "you're pedos!! i'm gonna blackmail you about it!!"
askerian:
XD
shewhoflies:
depends on the level of abuse we're dealing with.
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
hmmm.
shewhoflies:
it could be that Harry himself likes them and starts seeking them out more and more
askerian:
yeah but unless they live pretty close by he couldn't
shewhoflies:
shyly asking if he can help with their jobs
askerian:
maybe they have a really nice house a couple streets over. hmm.
shewhoflies:
I was thinking he'd write to them all the time
shewhoflies:
but never send the letters
askerian:
it's difficult, legally speaking, even more so if we're not introducing a random-ass way too convenient secret family bond between them
askerian:
aww
askerian:
idk, they're still adults, not really friends
shewhoflies:
yeah, but Harry used to dream of someone nice who'd like him -- I'm pretty sure that's canon.
askerian:
i mean, friendly adults, but that's more like having nice uncles who actually don't mind taking you for ice cream than friends his own age
askerian:
oh god. XD
askerian:
dursley witnesses shady dealings! the deal turns bad! there's a shooting! he gets killed! whoops harry has seen everything welp i guess we have to kidnap him now.
shewhoflies:
OMG.
askerian:
sorry kid it wouldn' tbe safe for you to let you go the people who killed your uncle would kill you too, they wouldn't care you're a kid
askerian:
and harry doesn't know anyone in the wizarding world yet, so
shewhoflies:
yesyesyes how come your brain gets entry into crazycoolland
askerian:
they're not family but they're nice and want to protect him and they TRIED to protect his uncle and him
shewhoflies:
<3<3<3<3
askerian:
and they failed it was horrible but they tried at least and they did save harry and hug him tight and say they were so sorry and sound like they meant it and none of them beats or ignores him or gives him chores he's too little to do well
askerian:
and ... quatre does happen to have magical wards on his property
shewhoflies:
;______;
askerian:
his unplottable property.
askerian:
:3
shewhoflies:
:-D
askerian:
duo: *gets harry shiny new passport & ID*
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
Harry Maxwell? Harry Winner? XD
shewhoflies:
heero: teaches harry to get passports and IDs
askerian:
LOL
askerian:
yesss
askerian:
quatre: ... you know we shouldn't teach him to... oh damn whatever okay
shewhoflies:
XDDDD
askerian:
everyone else: didn't even notice it was an issue
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
ok no wufei might but he'd treat harry as older than he is to responsibilize him and also he's a pretty mature kid
shewhoflies:
agreed.
askerian:
couple years later duo takes harry for a stroll on diagon alley? XD
shewhoflies:
besides you know wufei and duo are gonna have a competition on who teaches Harry to fight better.
askerian:
SUDDENLY HARRY POTER REAPPEARS it's a huge kerfluffe
askerian:
haha yes
askerian:
... meanwhile trowa and heero are the ones who actually daily-drill with him
shewhoflies:
duo started a basic course on street selfdefense, wufei took offence....
askerian:
fei and duo teach him the fancy tricks but heero and trowa instill the work ethic. XD
askerian:
ahaha yes
shewhoflies:
yes, hahaha
shewhoflies:
anyway, you were saying?
shewhoflies:
Diagon Alley?
askerian:
everyone panics aurors get involved blahblah custody!!!
shewhoflies:
....what custody?
askerian:
only quatre is from an old and revered wizard family they were wizards when your ancestors lived in smelly tents okay
shewhoflies:
he's been with us for years, no one noticed.
askerian:
well they want to grab harry back and give him back to his aunt (who moved away after vernon's death?) (or maybe she died too) but the gboys are all THEY WERE ABUSIVE NONE OF YOU CARED YOU WANT TO SEND HIM BACK HERE
askerian:
he's happy with us and he wants to stay okay
askerian:
dumbledore could have taken him in instead but ahaha nope he has these voldemort issues >>
askerian:
it's a huge mess, but meanwhile harry is reaching hogwards age, and they tell him to decide and he says, at the moment i'd like to try this wizard thing. maybe i can teach duo tricks!
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
(when they go buy harry's wand ollivander totally shoves a wand in duo's hand and he walks out having bought both and being very confused.)
shewhoflies:
pfffft
askerian:
anyway so while harry's at school they discuss the issue of harry calmly and with more lawyers
askerian:
quatre appeals to the purebloods by pretending to be a blood supremacist as well and being stinking rich, he's kinda cutting off the arguments of "harry potter should be with a rich traditional family who can take care of him like he deserves!!"
shewhoflies:
oooohhhh, clever!
askerian:
he also goes with how dumbledore forfeited his right on account of having placed harry illegally anyway in the wizarding world it was his godfather's right? and besides dumbles isn't any more related to harry than quatre is.
shewhoflies:
*nodnod*
askerian:
why should he have the right to make that decision, hmm? you're free to inspect our home life all over the place but we protected harry and he is a happy child. we see nothing wrong with letting him go to school and making friends, abusive controlling assholes would want to keep him locked up so he's more easy to brainwash into thinking the bad things are normal, we're fine with letting him stay at friends' houses over the holidays, we're fine with letting dumbledore assume a mentoring position IN SCHOOL, AS THE HEADMASTER
askerian:
anyway behind the scenes they have a long discussionw with dumbledore who telepathfucks the hell out of them until he's satisfied they truly mean no harm, and then they enter an unofficial alliance to get harry to be the happiest, most levelheaded, most dangerous little chosen child.
shewhoflies:
<333333333333333 *_____* :-D
askerian:
once dumbledore decides to start manipulating things in their favor instead of against them even if it's not that legal for quatre to have custody either things go pretty fast XD
shewhoflies:
hahaha
askerian:
also quatre buys a house in that wizarding village by the school. XD
shewhoflies:
they'd be pretty pissed if they found Dumbledore saw their thougths, but it's not as if they have the high moral ground.
askerian:
yeah XD
askerian:
quatre might be able to feel it happen and slash back with his empathy
askerian:
and then he'd be all "next time, ask" and dumbledore is all "very well. may I?" and quatre is all "you may" and then consensual brain rummaging happens
shewhoflies:
*___*
askerian:
hmm yes.
shewhoflies:
you know, I'm thinking.... Harry probably killed that troll with a gun. if he did. did he even kill the troll?
askerian:
yes. yess.
askerian:
though i dunno if they'd let him have a gun in school
askerian:
i mean even if they know he wouldn't treat it like a toy
askerian:
he'd be in a dormitory
shewhoflies:
they're wizards, why would they search for a gun?
askerian:
some of the kids might snoop around and find it and have no idea what it is
askerian:
they could be snooping for candy for all it matters
shewhoflies:
huh, good point.
shewhoflies:
he'd have to keep it on himself at all times.
askerian:
the gun is useless as protection if harry isn't carrying it and it's locked in his trunk, but that's dangerous in class and also his teachers would be so pissed off. so he might as well not have one
shewhoflies:
awww.
askerian:
also no matter how smart and mature he is, he's eleven. what if one day he really really wants to show off to get someone to think he's cool
shewhoflies:
:uhoh.
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
okay no gun
askerian:
but he would have the mindset, that'd make him disciplined enough to be dangerous
askerian:
and i bet they'd encourage him to think of defensive/.offensive uses for the everyday spells they learn
shewhoflies:
v. true
askerian:
tho really in canon he did pretty okay
shewhoflies:
haha, you'd be a first to think so
shewhoflies:
I'm tired of seeing fic authors say he slid on luck and should have been much cooler
askerian:
well he fumbled around and was clumsy but he thought on his feet and figured out a pretty smart way of repurposing a new spell
askerian:
)-: it was his first serious confrontation cut him some slack! D:
shewhoflies:
*nodnod*
And then joisbishmyoga added in her two cents, which are v. yummy cents. :
Re: fic adults not reacting like these are little kids:
- agreed x1,000,000
- I'd like to add Fudge at the end of GoF as an example. Harry was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. Even if he wasn't traumatized and distraught (which he obviously was), listening to a thing he said would've been political suicide at best. Though I am still rather confused as to why Fudge didn't get the idea that Harry had been kidnapped, abused, and misled by Sirius Black.
- I'd also like to add how often ficauthors write Harry with all the maturity, cunningness, and ability of a thirty-year-old. Rrgh. No, I don't care how capable Harry is for his age or how much he's secretly read, he's not going to have that much of a clue about Gringotts contracts and legal loopholes and all that other nonsense.
- And another thing, Harry was abused and neglected, I don't deny that, but the extent to which fics take it is ridiculous. You CAN be abused without getting the belt every night. Not that JKR seemed to particularly write him as a neglected child, I agree.
Hm. Pulling the GW timeline back. I've seen a few where they pull the HP timeline forward instead. Considering how out-of-touch the wizarding world is with the Muggle one, it seems to be a lot easier to place HP during the GW wars than GW in the 1990s (or 2000s if you're more inclined to movie release dates). But keeping with the idea of pulling the GW timeline back and shifting the backstories, a lot of the GW side seems to be "the shadowy world of backroom deals and crime" rather than open warfare.
- Treize as "trying to take over the world (or at least Europe)". The EU was forming in the 1990s, and Treize has his crazy canon ideology of "stop war by making everyone sick of it". If he can't operate openly, which he can't here, he could be trying to position key supporters in the budding EU and pervert its aims.
- Heero as assassin, still with Odin Lowe. (Yukionna = YES)
- Duo as Howie's secret heir.
- Trowa as mercenary.
- Quatre as CEO of an international company.
- Wufei as kill-Treize-driven vigiliante? What did Treize do? Wufei is the big question mark here.
Using the EU, which is largely an economic entity, Quatre and Duo seem to be the people most likely to have the information and intelligence to start tracing what Treize is trying to do: Quatre as the head of an international corporation, Duo as the secret heir to a conglomerate in the criminal economy, both of which would have major operations covering Europe and therefore be in the thick of the development of it all.
Heero and Trowa are most likely to have contacts and be getting their work from within Duo's empire, though it's also likely that one or both took jobs from Treize (which they regret now).
From my recent readings in Native American lore... well. It's cultural appropriation if you do it wrong, but shewhoflies has a point: you could put it into the context of "this is how the regional supernatural world works (Eurosystem kindly f*ck off)". To oversimplify the case drastically, Native North America system can be classified into two basic categories: the agricultural and the hunter-gatherer. The hunter-gatherer system is very individualistic over a general substrate of shared lore, and works a lot in terms of spirit quests and personal spirit animals, the whole "I go on a vision quest and am met by spirits who challenge and then are willing to assist and instruct me" thing. If the magical world in the northern US worked like that, then Duo could be under the aegis of a paranormal being without it necessarily being cultural appropriation. (The case society I read about had a "three spirits challenge and the fourth comes for you if you're worthy" concept.) There's been a sharp rise in Mexico of the adherents of La Santa Muerte, Holy Death, since the start of the millenium, I can see her being Duo's patron...
How was it that only Vernon and little Harry were around when shady dealings went down and boom? I can believe Petunia being stuck alone and out somewhere with Harry -- oh Dinky Duddydums, go play with your little friends while Mummy takes the boy to the charity shops, Mummy doesn't want you to have to associate with nasty people like that and you'd be so bored there! -- but I doubt Vernon would be taking Harry anywhere, and as much as Privet Drive is described with neighbors spying on everybody else it's unlikely anyone would be holding a shady meeting there.
Poly orgy approved. :3
Harry *might* be smuggling a tiny gun, but certainly nothing of a large enough caliber to injure a troll anyway. And I'd think it more likely he'd have a knife instead. You don't need ammo, everyone knows what it is, it hits a more primal terror button, and it can be explained away as "it's for potions ingredients and quill sharpening". However, just how good at martial arts is he? I'm thinking dropkick broken faucets into the eyes, hurl a toilet seat against the windpipe, mule kick to the crotch, lasso with a necktie or belt and hang down the troll's back until it collapses from lack of bloodflow to the brain.
shewhoflies:
....I've read some really depressing Naruto fics lately ;___;
askerian:
*pets*
shewhoflies:
and why is it so hard to find good HP fic???
askerian:
too much of it? idk ._.
shewhoflies:
I find a promising one, timetravel or AU or what have you, and then I get to an interesting chapter and there goes a kid laying down on an adult and no one answers appropriately!
askerian:
?_?
shewhoflies:
I mean, remember that scene in the first book/movie where the trio warns McGonagall of the danger the stone is in, and she pats them on the head and tells them it's alright?
askerian:
yes?
shewhoflies:
the thing is.
shewhoflies:
that was the "correct" response.
shewhoflies:
it really shows in the movie.
shewhoflies:
three little kids with high little-kid voices, saying that sort of thing?
shewhoflies:
it's really really hard to take them seriously.
askerian:
aha yes good point
shewhoflies:
it should take an exceptional person to accept the information they're saying.
shewhoflies:
it happens a lot in these fics
shewhoflies:
the kids will show up, say "I know what to do!" and the adults step aside and allow them to go ahead.
shewhoflies:
or the kids will insult an adult ultrageously, and the response is never satisfactiory -- no one reacts as though they are kids doing this stuff!
askerian:
yeah
askerian:
there's definitely an element of wish fulfilment, they identify with the kids so they want them to get to be awesome and do stuff and be admired, and at the same time THEY know the kids are right so it's hard to imagine that other characters might not think so from the limited info they have
askerian:
unreliable narrator is hard to grasp for a lot of people
askerian:
also i'm typing without my glasses and can barley read the letters
askerian:
just saying
askerian:
woo scratchy eye
askerian:
/random
shewhoflies:
hahaha
shewhoflies:
*hughugpet*
shewhoflies:
wow, you make so much sense!
shewhoflies:
I hadn't thought of the unrealiable narrator being hard to grasp angle.
shewhoflies:
thanks for your input *__*
shewhoflies:
oh hey gummies
askerian:
i mean from their point of view they know that the kid is being 100% truthful and that it's IMPORTANT OMG, but from the outside, especially young kids will say a lot of shit anyway
shewhoflies:
oh yeah.
shewhoflies:
and I mean, it was probably a pivotal point for Harry.
shewhoflies:
or should have been since JK didn't elaborate on it.
shewhoflies:
but considering that he was abused by the Dursleys and was still with them...
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
it was probably the first time ever he was going to a figure of authority with something he thought was important.
askerian:
yeah ;;
askerian:
tho really JKR didnt think through the repercussions of his abuse in his characterization :-\
shewhoflies:
true. a lot of people tried to make it more important in fic, but I'll have to say that a lot of them failed really badly.
askerian:
yeeeeah :-X
shewhoflies:
hey, did you ever read the fic where the GW boys try to raise Harry?
askerian:
which? there's several
askerian:
and i'd say no, or if i did i deliberately forgot it
shewhoflies:
really? any good?
askerian:
i don't like gw/hp crossovers. the timelines don't mesh so it bothers me
shewhoflies:
hm-hmmm.
shewhoflies:
I think it'd take a bit of work to make it work, but it could be done.
askerian:
most of them seemed like excuse to have cool older brother types beat up people harry didn't like and/or yay let's give very fanon versions of the gboys the occasion to totally fuck with the magical world
askerian:
yeah but i haven't seen it yet ;p
shewhoflies:
the easiest way would be throw away the GW timeline and adapt the story to our world.
shewhoflies:
simutaneously throwing out most of the current history.
shewhoflies:
the GW characters fill the void left by the real people who'd have to be on Harry's background, bery convinient.
askerian:
yeah but then they lose all the background that makes them THEM and become random OCs
askerian:
pretty stu-tastic too. and harry is hardly un-sueish himself
askerian:
it's a lot of speshul in one fic. XD
shewhoflies:
pffft.
shewhoflies:
it could still work!
askerian:
yeah, maybe
shewhoflies:
for a militaristic Harry going to Hogwarts.
shewhoflies:
maybe.
shewhoflies:
let's see, Quatre is eventually CEO of a powerful international company
askerian:
:-X
askerian:
yeah, an arabic one
askerian:
what's he doing in england? okay he could be going to university over there. XD
shewhoflies:
heck, he could just be managing stuff.
shewhoflies:
wait, the war did happen -- at the same time that Voldemort did.
shewhoflies:
there were no Gundams!
shewhoflies:
no space battles.
shewhoflies:
the GW boys where even more terrorists than in GW itself
askerian:
idk, without the gundams they couldn't affect things half as much
shewhoflies:
...Treize was focused on Europe.
askerian:
and they're all different nationalities, they'd be on different sides
askerian:
wufei would have no reason to be around, and maybe not even heero
shewhoflies:
nah, they're all going against Treize.
askerian:
heero is japanese but the blue eyes, he could be half russian, but that's still pretty far away
askerian:
hm. :-X
shewhoflies:
Heero is there because J is testing out his soldier toy.
shewhoflies:
Wufei went there due to two debts of honor: the first, to kill Treize since Treize defeated his Clan head in a martial battle, and the second, to help the scientist who Treize is pressuring.
shewhoflies:
how did Meiran die?
askerian:
in battle? i don't think it was treize, it was romafeller tho
askerian:
j isn't that much of an asshole to heero, he likes the kid actually
askerian:
and he wouldn't waste him on a potentially deadly conflict if he's not getting anything from it
shewhoflies:
maybe treize has a hit out on the 5 mad ones?
askerian:
get him treize as an actual enemy then it'll work
askerian:
hm. why not. why? what do they do that's dangerous to him?
askerian:
what is he anyway, mundane human or wizard?
shewhoflies:
well, j for one is creating super-soldiers.
askerian:
hm.
shewhoflies:
hmm, I'm inclined to think they're all at least thought to be mundane, operating on the mundane world, and so they nearly don't affect the wizard world.
shewhoflies:
Trowa is still a mercenary who fought on those neverending wars in Africa.
askerian:
that works for him
askerian:
it's real hard to imagine them all concentrating on england though
shewhoflies:
I doubt they would.
askerian:
but anyway let's imagine they're all here. now what? how do they (which one, they're not a group yet are they?) meet harry? why do they come to care?
shewhoflies:
I'm thinking they met each other, not all at once, and ...pinged.
shewhoflies:
hey, we are alike, you are interesting, you saved me/I saved you, let's keep in touch
askerian:
that's hard to do convincingly, and not as a background detail to explain away how it happened. hm.
askerian:
considering how different their backgrounds and motives and self images are they'd need a lot of external pressure
askerian:
XD okay i'll stop critting everything. it's a reflex i swear
shewhoflies:
I like this reflex.
shewhoflies:
it makes me think.
askerian:
^^ <3<3<3
shewhoflies:
don't stop critting, please.
askerian:
ahaha okay then XD
shewhoflies:
let's say they all went to England during the Treize thing.
shewhoflies:
Wufei is out for his blood.
askerian:
hmm okay
shewhoflies:
Heero is there to monitor things, gather info and sabotage.
askerian:
could def. blame him for meiran. whoops so sorry necessary sacrifices~
askerian:
hmm idk. sabotage yes but hrrrrrrm idk
shewhoflies:
Trowa got a contract to work for la resistence and decided he wanted out of this hell anyway.
askerian:
that works for him
askerian:
duo's based in the states though and he's a street rat so hmm
shewhoflies:
ends up hopping out on the resistence too, runs away with the circus.
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
LOL
shewhoflies:
Quatre is going through a very rebellious and idealistic phase and decides that funneling money is not enough, I have training so I'll fight too.
askerian:
lol
askerian:
in a modern world it's harder to justify him even having the money though
askerian:
is the war public or sneaky?
shewhoflies:
I think sneaky
shewhoflies:
Treize is a political candidate with dreams of uniting Europe and people don't notice that he's actually doing it.
askerian:
so then how would he know about it and how would it affect him?
askerian:
because there's more or less well internationally-known wars every day in the world
askerian:
why this one?
shewhoflies:
he was there.
askerian:
what's wrong with uniting europe the way treize does it that bothers him so much?
shewhoflies:
universtity in England?
askerian:
okay, but as a student how does he have access to that kind of intel?
askerian:
maybe he gets involved via a chance meeting with trowa
shewhoflies:
he's still the future CEO of his international company
askerian:
who stumbles bleeding and dazed through his window
askerian:
yeah but they'd start trying to pull him out of the country
shewhoflies:
I thought he'd start smelling something fishy when Relena becomes a puppet.
askerian:
he's got responsibilities to his company and thousands of employees and his poor country that he can't fulfill is he gets himself killed in some random war in some other country
shewhoflies:
oh hey she's the Queen of England! o__O
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmm maybe just a princess
shewhoflies:
anyway Treize's trying to control her and Quatre thinks that's not right
askerian:
idk why but replacing the queen ... sacrilegious!! XD it's ridiculous, the HP world is not actually taking place irl
shewhoflies:
really?
askerian:
but how does helping her equal fighting the whole war?
askerian:
XD
shewhoflies:
it doesn't, but he'll get all fired up for that, won't he?
askerian:
i mean he could offer her a way out, like safe passage to his own country or some other resources, but that doesn't necesarily translate to "i will throw all my resources into getting this man dead/locked up/stopped at all costs"
askerian:
personally yes, he'll be all hssst, but he has a duty to his people too
shewhoflies:
I'm actually thinking... you know all those meetings where the five gboys stay at one of Quatre's safehouses that never happened on the show?
askerian:
yeah?
shewhoflies:
Quatre doesn't need to fight the war. he can sneakily help them by providing safehouses though.
shewhoflies:
and then he meets Trowa.
askerian:
yeah, good if quatre doesn't get involved much with the dirty work (though assassins or something would be right surprised if they decide to go after one of the operatives' backers and he turns out to be quite able to defend himself XD that'd be pretty badass)
shewhoflies:
oh I'd love that scene.
shewhoflies:
and it's hard for Wufei to hide his sword (gotta kill Treize with the sword.)
askerian:
not really XD he's in england! could pretend it's an umbrella XDDDDDD
shewhoflies:
hey XDDDD
askerian:
anyway without gundams to pilot it makes sense if quatre then becomes the one who provides the political and dirty deals backgrounds and moneylender and safehouse suggester
shewhoflies:
it's his main strength aside of piloting anyway
askerian:
wufei would probably feel it was shameful to disguise his sword though,but even in canon he doesn't always have it at hand
askerian:
if he's planning to go after treize then yes he'd take it along, but he would also be sneaking around so that's not bad
shewhoflies:
hmmm. Heero and Duo probably arrive together at the safehouse due to an epic mess. XD
askerian:
okay so how to get duo there at all.
askerian:
oh hey
askerian:
duo is working for howard, who does sneaky weapon traffic all over the world
shewhoflies:
I was thinking Duo....either he's here because it's a party, or he's got a job that involves killing someone on Treize's turf, or he was nearly caught by the feds and decided to have a vacation, or he was caught by the feds and Treize wants him...
shewhoflies:
oh hey, that works well!
askerian:
he delivers a shipment of weapons, things turn south, duo has seen too much and/or he sees something that really pisses him off, hey howie that guy's bad for business let me off him
shewhoflies:
DX
shewhoflies:
we can even have the scene where Duo and Heero nearly shoot each other and afterwards Heero saves him
askerian:
like, some of treize's men do real bad stuff in his name? or they use his rep as his followers to dodge consequences from, idk, underage prostitutes or abusive behavior, that'd piss duo off pretty badly
askerian:
ahaha yes
askerian:
and then he's all "well howie you remember we have this policy of only selling to guys if we can halfway agree their cause is just and those guys got our weapons on false pretenses i'm gonna fix that"
shewhoflies:
woooow
askerian:
everyone thinks duo is just some random kid deliveryman but actually he's more like howard's heir/right hand man so he has a LOT of pull
shewhoflies:
^o^
askerian:
howard is planning to leave him the whole empire of shady deals with he retires on his island in the pacific XD
askerian:
works? XD
shewhoflies:
XDDDD you go boy u.u-b
askerian:
okay then they're all here
askerian:
though heero hrrm
askerian:
actually maybe heero was still with odin lowe
shewhoflies:
okay?
askerian:
the hired killer who raised him as a kid
shewhoflies:
I was thinking maybe Zechs is stolen work of J's, but?
askerian:
in canon odin regretted being made to kill the pacifist heero yuy by Septem who was from Oz, and he turned against oz, but he was killed, so heero finished that mission for him
askerian:
it'd be easy to just move that event from heero's 8 year old to 18 or whatever age they are
askerian:
hmmm zechs
askerian:
oh man zechs is totally a prince of england
askerian:
if relena is, i mean
shewhoflies:
XXDDDDD
shewhoflies:
okay
askerian:
...
askerian:
quatre is totally a wizard
shewhoflies:
honestly I can totally see Relena as princess of England.
shewhoflies:
ehhhhhhhhhhh?
askerian:
the other gboys are baffled as to how his hideouts are NEVER found but he's rich and mysterious
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
also he was from north africa and they teach magic differently there
askerian:
he has a lot of notice me not and healing spells but he doesn't use a wand
shewhoflies:
ooohhh!! *___*
askerian:
also the empathy
shewhoflies:
you're right.
shewhoflies:
totally a wizard.
askerian:
he can't do european spells, really, but his magic is more instinctive and closer to children's natural magic
shewhoflies:
*__*
askerian:
and then we have a connection to the local wizarding life. XD
shewhoflies:
could Duo or Trowa be wizards who escaped throught the cracks?
askerian:
even if nothing happens during the war, after the war the aurors could still drop in XD
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmm
askerian:
trowa would totally be a squib.
shewhoflies:
and as for Heero, the man who jumps off buildings and bends steel....
shewhoflies:
why a squib?
askerian:
heero might be a wizard, with that unnatural strength -- oh oh OH he's not a wizard, he's part something not human
shewhoflies:
*________*
askerian:
idk, he gives me that feeling like he knows magic but it kinda flows around him? also he was abandoned sorta
shewhoflies:
D-:
askerian:
possibly something japanese or russian. probably japanese, ahaha oh god part kitsune heero. no, he's WAY not playful enough
askerian:
... YUKIONNA
shewhoflies:
OMG.
askerian:
HEERO
askerian:
ICE MAIDEN
shewhoflies:
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
askerian:
THIS IS LITERALLY PERFECT
shewhoflies:
LOL
askerian:
NOTHING CAN BE MORE PERFECT
askerian:
this is now my headcanon now and forever amen.
shewhoflies:
see how it was a good thing we kept pushing at this?
askerian:
yes!
askerian:
and ahaha duo could also have a little something extra
askerian:
i dunno what though
shewhoflies:
okay
askerian:
he's not native american so it's a bit appropriating to stick him with something from that folklore
shewhoflies:
huh, pity he's not japanese, he could be a kitsune
askerian:
unless we say he's like half indian but idk that bugs me a bit. :-\
askerian:
haha yes
askerian:
american i'd go with Coyote but Coyote is a deity not a species. XD he does the trickster thing though
shewhoflies:
wouldn't it be a matter of the land rather than the ethnics?
askerian:
one of my friends had done the gw boys as fae creatures and duo was a raven/death spirit
shewhoflies:
huh.
askerian:
oooooh that's an interesting point
askerian:
but i'd think he would also need to be raised in those beliefs for them to anchor in
shewhoflies:
hmmm. gipsy contact?
shewhoflies:
gypsy?
askerian:
hrrrm they're actually european/north african
shewhoflies:
yeah but some of them moved to America
askerian:
yeah but idk. the stereotypes hrrrm.
askerian:
maybe duo is just naturally badass. XD
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
or okay, HE can be an untrained wizard XD
shewhoflies:
<3
askerian:
quatre was trained, only in his own country's traditions
askerian:
heero is part non-human
askerian:
trowa idk, and wufei, i could see it like some in his clan were wizard and everyone knew it and it was a pretty normal spiritual thing but wufei wasn't
shewhoflies:
I see!
askerian:
but he's fine with it because sword and martial arts master, who cares about divination or cursing people, those are cowardly things
shewhoflies:
LOL
askerian:
u.u
shewhoflies:
I can see him saying that.
askerian:
hahaha toward the end of the war they find out quatre's a wizard, and everyone is o_o except wufei who's like... yes, and?
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
duo, well, he's one but he never NOTICED
askerian:
heero might know he's weird, idk
shewhoflies:
...he bent steel. with his hands someone would have warned him at that point
askerian:
he doesn't ping me as questioning himself much XDDD
askerian:
but yeah, i think secretly he's aware he's abnormal but idk if he would think on it too hard instead of living in the moment
shewhoflies:
hmm, good point.
askerian:
and then when they figure it out in detail he's like "... oh. Hm. Wonder if i can use it somehow."
askerian:
BUT OKAY how do we get them to meet harry XD
shewhoflies:
*sigh* of course.
shewhoflies:
Harry.
shewhoflies:
I was thinking.
shewhoflies:
the defeating Voldemort thing.
askerian:
hmm?
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
and the surviving the Killing Curse thing.
shewhoflies:
how important would they be considered.
shewhoflies:
I'm thinking.
shewhoflies:
either Duo or Quatre would notice this abandoned kid.
shewhoflies:
they're the ones most likely to go rawr at it.
shewhoflies:
they'd make sure an investigation was initiated.
shewhoflies:
depending on the level of abuse we choose to use, things might go this or that way, but....
shewhoflies:
might the whole Boy-Who-Lived thing land his file on Relena's desk?
askerian:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
askerian:
ahaha maybe the unconscious magic quatre and duo and heero were throwing around means they get invited to the ministry to discuss their case and whether they did breach the statute of secrecy or whatevet it's called
shewhoflies:
pffffffft
askerian:
and duo's all "haha shyeah right fuck that noise i'mma gonna visit this here street" and he meets harry with the dursleys. but that means harry'd be about to enter school
askerian:
i just can't see the convenient neighbor thing because quatre, living in a middle class suburbian premade house?
askerian:
oh, maybe quatre buys grunnings!
shewhoflies:
I was thinking, visiting somewhere and Harry would be conviniently visiting the same place
askerian:
and there's a dinner thing where everyone meets the new CEO and brings the wife and kids and the dursleys couldn't find a sitter so they have to bring harry
shewhoflies:
but buying Grunnings has potential
askerian:
they leave him in the car
askerian:
D:
shewhoflies:
DDDD':
askerian:
duo: *kinda hates those big moneybag meetings and also he doesn't feel like he fits with people who work mundane daily jobs and notices him while stalking around in the dark"
shewhoflies:
*_______*
askerian:
or maybe trowa, or duo and trowa were taking a perimeter walk and chatting, oh hey kid in car. :-X
shewhoflies:
hahahahahahaha, the five of them are pretty much living together on and off by this point, aren't they.
askerian:
yessss.
askerian:
duo might sometimes disappear because he does run his own business on the side!
shewhoflies:
<3<3<3<3<3
askerian:
in my head this has totally devolved into a big poly orgy, you do realize.
shewhoflies:
<3333333333333333
shewhoflies:
omg you'll have togive me details eventually
askerian:
anyway duo and trowa break harry out of the car and they're calmly pissed off about this and bring him in the house and feed him cake and oh hey mr dursley *fake smile* apparently you forgot your nephew in your car but no worries those things happen!!!*
shewhoflies:
*______*
askerian:
after this point quatre makes it a point of asking after harry when he has reasons to see dursley around. >_> pointedly.
shewhoflies:
socool
askerian:
and then the aurors are like "okay we all agreed that you did not act as wizard during the last war and so you werne't under our laws but we been noticing your magical auras around harry potter recently what the fuck" and the five are all "... tell us more about this harry potter."
askerian:
because up until then they pretty much didn't give a crap about the wizarding world and their weird reclusive behavior
shewhoflies:
ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh *______*
askerian:
and then duo probably starts wandering down privet drive. it's a shortcut to go to his job! seriously!
shewhoflies:
you're tying things so incredibly nicely <3
askerian:
okay not really but it's a scenic route!
askerian:
hahaha <3
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
it's so fun
shewhoflies:
I'm glad! <3
askerian:
we need to get heero and fei involved
askerian:
... what are a yukionna's powers again
shewhoflies:
yukionna are associated with snow.
askerian:
Despite her inhuman beauty, her eyes can strike terror into mortals.
XD
askerian:
yeah but apart from that
shewhoflies:
I'm pretty sure when they get upset things freeze.
askerian:
Some legends say the Yuki-onna, being associated with winter and snowstorms, is the spirit of someone who perished in the snow.[5] She is at the same time beautiful and serene, yet ruthless in killing unsuspecting mortals.
SO HEERO.
askerian:
yeah but heero doesn't get upset
askerian:
i was thinking maybe he'd be attracted by harry's power
shewhoflies:
hoho!
askerian:
What Yuki-onna is after varies from tale to tale. Sometimes she is simply satisfied to see a victim die. Other times, she is more vampiric, draining her victims' blood or "life force." She occasionally takes on a succubus-like manner, preying on weak-willed men to drain or freeze them through sex or a kiss.[3]
shewhoflies:
o__o
askerian:
if heero's yukionna is a little on the vampiric side he could be a little baffled and pretty intrigued by what he feels from that kid. okay, he's ... interesting. huh. but, a kid, so trying anything to steal that energy from him doesn't even register as a possibility
askerian:
but it's like heero is half vampire and oh hey this kid has warm yummy blood. he's not hungry since he can live on human food, he's just aware?
shewhoflies:
I see
shewhoflies:
interesting!
askerian:
to him it'd be a fairly distant thing since he's like one fourth or one eight but it can provide DRAMA later on when the wizarding world tries to get custody back. liek le gasp pedophile life draining monster using harry potter as a living food source!!!
askerian:
heero: ... thefuck. :-\
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
it'd totally be a malfoy thing to bring up wouldn't it
shewhoflies:
it would.
shewhoflies:
oh em gee.
shewhoflies:
Trowa would identify a little with the abandoned kid
shewhoflies:
enough to provide company but not enough to seek it our
shewhoflies:
out
askerian:
yeah
askerian:
quatre would be pissed off since he feels paternal/protective toward his employees and it pisses him off that he'd be sheltering an abusive one but he can't really fire him for things he has no way of legally knowing
askerian:
also it wouldn't improve harry's situation any
shewhoflies:
heee I like!
askerian:
hell if vernon was suddenly unemployed he'd have more time and more rage to abuse harry with
shewhoflies:
DX
askerian:
yeah :-\
askerian:
anyway i'm not sure how they'd get custody
shewhoflies:
huh
shewhoflies:
Duo could start out by hey, lady, wanna let me take your kid for a spin?
shewhoflies:
and take Harry around
askerian:
unless it's unofficial custody where he's still nominally the dursleys' ward so dumbledore has no reason to interfere, but he's being sent off to play with duo/trowa/whever else since 1) it makes vernon's boss happy and 2) vernon is vaguely thinking they're probably pedos but who the fuck cares it means harry is not at their house
shewhoflies:
and teach him how to behave himself
shewhoflies:
the fuck XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
askerian:
i mean, unrelated adults who want to spend a lot of time with a kid? suspicious as hell
shewhoflies:
XDDDDD
askerian:
though i dunno if vernon would be THAT evil. hmm.
askerian:
unless he was like "you're pedos!! i'm gonna blackmail you about it!!"
askerian:
XD
shewhoflies:
depends on the level of abuse we're dealing with.
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
hmmm.
shewhoflies:
it could be that Harry himself likes them and starts seeking them out more and more
askerian:
yeah but unless they live pretty close by he couldn't
shewhoflies:
shyly asking if he can help with their jobs
askerian:
maybe they have a really nice house a couple streets over. hmm.
shewhoflies:
I was thinking he'd write to them all the time
shewhoflies:
but never send the letters
askerian:
it's difficult, legally speaking, even more so if we're not introducing a random-ass way too convenient secret family bond between them
askerian:
aww
askerian:
idk, they're still adults, not really friends
shewhoflies:
yeah, but Harry used to dream of someone nice who'd like him -- I'm pretty sure that's canon.
askerian:
i mean, friendly adults, but that's more like having nice uncles who actually don't mind taking you for ice cream than friends his own age
askerian:
oh god. XD
askerian:
dursley witnesses shady dealings! the deal turns bad! there's a shooting! he gets killed! whoops harry has seen everything welp i guess we have to kidnap him now.
shewhoflies:
OMG.
askerian:
sorry kid it wouldn' tbe safe for you to let you go the people who killed your uncle would kill you too, they wouldn't care you're a kid
askerian:
and harry doesn't know anyone in the wizarding world yet, so
shewhoflies:
yesyesyes how come your brain gets entry into crazycoolland
askerian:
they're not family but they're nice and want to protect him and they TRIED to protect his uncle and him
shewhoflies:
<3<3<3<3
askerian:
and they failed it was horrible but they tried at least and they did save harry and hug him tight and say they were so sorry and sound like they meant it and none of them beats or ignores him or gives him chores he's too little to do well
askerian:
and ... quatre does happen to have magical wards on his property
shewhoflies:
;______;
askerian:
his unplottable property.
askerian:
:3
shewhoflies:
:-D
askerian:
duo: *gets harry shiny new passport & ID*
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
Harry Maxwell? Harry Winner? XD
shewhoflies:
heero: teaches harry to get passports and IDs
askerian:
LOL
askerian:
yesss
askerian:
quatre: ... you know we shouldn't teach him to... oh damn whatever okay
shewhoflies:
XDDDD
askerian:
everyone else: didn't even notice it was an issue
shewhoflies:
LOL.
askerian:
ok no wufei might but he'd treat harry as older than he is to responsibilize him and also he's a pretty mature kid
shewhoflies:
agreed.
askerian:
couple years later duo takes harry for a stroll on diagon alley? XD
shewhoflies:
besides you know wufei and duo are gonna have a competition on who teaches Harry to fight better.
askerian:
SUDDENLY HARRY POTER REAPPEARS it's a huge kerfluffe
askerian:
haha yes
askerian:
... meanwhile trowa and heero are the ones who actually daily-drill with him
shewhoflies:
duo started a basic course on street selfdefense, wufei took offence....
askerian:
fei and duo teach him the fancy tricks but heero and trowa instill the work ethic. XD
askerian:
ahaha yes
shewhoflies:
yes, hahaha
shewhoflies:
anyway, you were saying?
shewhoflies:
Diagon Alley?
askerian:
everyone panics aurors get involved blahblah custody!!!
shewhoflies:
....what custody?
askerian:
only quatre is from an old and revered wizard family they were wizards when your ancestors lived in smelly tents okay
shewhoflies:
he's been with us for years, no one noticed.
askerian:
well they want to grab harry back and give him back to his aunt (who moved away after vernon's death?) (or maybe she died too) but the gboys are all THEY WERE ABUSIVE NONE OF YOU CARED YOU WANT TO SEND HIM BACK HERE
askerian:
he's happy with us and he wants to stay okay
askerian:
dumbledore could have taken him in instead but ahaha nope he has these voldemort issues >>
askerian:
it's a huge mess, but meanwhile harry is reaching hogwards age, and they tell him to decide and he says, at the moment i'd like to try this wizard thing. maybe i can teach duo tricks!
shewhoflies:
XD
askerian:
(when they go buy harry's wand ollivander totally shoves a wand in duo's hand and he walks out having bought both and being very confused.)
shewhoflies:
pfffft
askerian:
anyway so while harry's at school they discuss the issue of harry calmly and with more lawyers
askerian:
quatre appeals to the purebloods by pretending to be a blood supremacist as well and being stinking rich, he's kinda cutting off the arguments of "harry potter should be with a rich traditional family who can take care of him like he deserves!!"
shewhoflies:
oooohhhh, clever!
askerian:
he also goes with how dumbledore forfeited his right on account of having placed harry illegally anyway in the wizarding world it was his godfather's right? and besides dumbles isn't any more related to harry than quatre is.
shewhoflies:
*nodnod*
askerian:
why should he have the right to make that decision, hmm? you're free to inspect our home life all over the place but we protected harry and he is a happy child. we see nothing wrong with letting him go to school and making friends, abusive controlling assholes would want to keep him locked up so he's more easy to brainwash into thinking the bad things are normal, we're fine with letting him stay at friends' houses over the holidays, we're fine with letting dumbledore assume a mentoring position IN SCHOOL, AS THE HEADMASTER
askerian:
anyway behind the scenes they have a long discussionw with dumbledore who telepathfucks the hell out of them until he's satisfied they truly mean no harm, and then they enter an unofficial alliance to get harry to be the happiest, most levelheaded, most dangerous little chosen child.
shewhoflies:
<333333333333333 *_____* :-D
askerian:
once dumbledore decides to start manipulating things in their favor instead of against them even if it's not that legal for quatre to have custody either things go pretty fast XD
shewhoflies:
hahaha
askerian:
also quatre buys a house in that wizarding village by the school. XD
shewhoflies:
they'd be pretty pissed if they found Dumbledore saw their thougths, but it's not as if they have the high moral ground.
askerian:
yeah XD
askerian:
quatre might be able to feel it happen and slash back with his empathy
askerian:
and then he'd be all "next time, ask" and dumbledore is all "very well. may I?" and quatre is all "you may" and then consensual brain rummaging happens
shewhoflies:
*___*
askerian:
hmm yes.
shewhoflies:
you know, I'm thinking.... Harry probably killed that troll with a gun. if he did. did he even kill the troll?
askerian:
yes. yess.
askerian:
though i dunno if they'd let him have a gun in school
askerian:
i mean even if they know he wouldn't treat it like a toy
askerian:
he'd be in a dormitory
shewhoflies:
they're wizards, why would they search for a gun?
askerian:
some of the kids might snoop around and find it and have no idea what it is
askerian:
they could be snooping for candy for all it matters
shewhoflies:
huh, good point.
shewhoflies:
he'd have to keep it on himself at all times.
askerian:
the gun is useless as protection if harry isn't carrying it and it's locked in his trunk, but that's dangerous in class and also his teachers would be so pissed off. so he might as well not have one
shewhoflies:
awww.
askerian:
also no matter how smart and mature he is, he's eleven. what if one day he really really wants to show off to get someone to think he's cool
shewhoflies:
:uhoh.
askerian:
yeah
shewhoflies:
okay no gun
askerian:
but he would have the mindset, that'd make him disciplined enough to be dangerous
askerian:
and i bet they'd encourage him to think of defensive/.offensive uses for the everyday spells they learn
shewhoflies:
v. true
askerian:
tho really in canon he did pretty okay
shewhoflies:
haha, you'd be a first to think so
shewhoflies:
I'm tired of seeing fic authors say he slid on luck and should have been much cooler
askerian:
well he fumbled around and was clumsy but he thought on his feet and figured out a pretty smart way of repurposing a new spell
askerian:
)-: it was his first serious confrontation cut him some slack! D:
shewhoflies:
*nodnod*
And then joisbishmyoga added in her two cents, which are v. yummy cents. :
Re: fic adults not reacting like these are little kids:
- agreed x1,000,000
- I'd like to add Fudge at the end of GoF as an example. Harry was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. Even if he wasn't traumatized and distraught (which he obviously was), listening to a thing he said would've been political suicide at best. Though I am still rather confused as to why Fudge didn't get the idea that Harry had been kidnapped, abused, and misled by Sirius Black.
- I'd also like to add how often ficauthors write Harry with all the maturity, cunningness, and ability of a thirty-year-old. Rrgh. No, I don't care how capable Harry is for his age or how much he's secretly read, he's not going to have that much of a clue about Gringotts contracts and legal loopholes and all that other nonsense.
- And another thing, Harry was abused and neglected, I don't deny that, but the extent to which fics take it is ridiculous. You CAN be abused without getting the belt every night. Not that JKR seemed to particularly write him as a neglected child, I agree.
Hm. Pulling the GW timeline back. I've seen a few where they pull the HP timeline forward instead. Considering how out-of-touch the wizarding world is with the Muggle one, it seems to be a lot easier to place HP during the GW wars than GW in the 1990s (or 2000s if you're more inclined to movie release dates). But keeping with the idea of pulling the GW timeline back and shifting the backstories, a lot of the GW side seems to be "the shadowy world of backroom deals and crime" rather than open warfare.
- Treize as "trying to take over the world (or at least Europe)". The EU was forming in the 1990s, and Treize has his crazy canon ideology of "stop war by making everyone sick of it". If he can't operate openly, which he can't here, he could be trying to position key supporters in the budding EU and pervert its aims.
- Heero as assassin, still with Odin Lowe. (Yukionna = YES)
- Duo as Howie's secret heir.
- Trowa as mercenary.
- Quatre as CEO of an international company.
- Wufei as kill-Treize-driven vigiliante? What did Treize do? Wufei is the big question mark here.
Using the EU, which is largely an economic entity, Quatre and Duo seem to be the people most likely to have the information and intelligence to start tracing what Treize is trying to do: Quatre as the head of an international corporation, Duo as the secret heir to a conglomerate in the criminal economy, both of which would have major operations covering Europe and therefore be in the thick of the development of it all.
Heero and Trowa are most likely to have contacts and be getting their work from within Duo's empire, though it's also likely that one or both took jobs from Treize (which they regret now).
From my recent readings in Native American lore... well. It's cultural appropriation if you do it wrong, but shewhoflies has a point: you could put it into the context of "this is how the regional supernatural world works (Eurosystem kindly f*ck off)". To oversimplify the case drastically, Native North America system can be classified into two basic categories: the agricultural and the hunter-gatherer. The hunter-gatherer system is very individualistic over a general substrate of shared lore, and works a lot in terms of spirit quests and personal spirit animals, the whole "I go on a vision quest and am met by spirits who challenge and then are willing to assist and instruct me" thing. If the magical world in the northern US worked like that, then Duo could be under the aegis of a paranormal being without it necessarily being cultural appropriation. (The case society I read about had a "three spirits challenge and the fourth comes for you if you're worthy" concept.) There's been a sharp rise in Mexico of the adherents of La Santa Muerte, Holy Death, since the start of the millenium, I can see her being Duo's patron...
How was it that only Vernon and little Harry were around when shady dealings went down and boom? I can believe Petunia being stuck alone and out somewhere with Harry -- oh Dinky Duddydums, go play with your little friends while Mummy takes the boy to the charity shops, Mummy doesn't want you to have to associate with nasty people like that and you'd be so bored there! -- but I doubt Vernon would be taking Harry anywhere, and as much as Privet Drive is described with neighbors spying on everybody else it's unlikely anyone would be holding a shady meeting there.
Poly orgy approved. :3
Harry *might* be smuggling a tiny gun, but certainly nothing of a large enough caliber to injure a troll anyway. And I'd think it more likely he'd have a knife instead. You don't need ammo, everyone knows what it is, it hits a more primal terror button, and it can be explained away as "it's for potions ingredients and quill sharpening". However, just how good at martial arts is he? I'm thinking dropkick broken faucets into the eyes, hurl a toilet seat against the windpipe, mule kick to the crotch, lasso with a necktie or belt and hang down the troll's back until it collapses from lack of bloodflow to the brain.