WTF. "To regain the Sakura of that day?" Why is that damn day so important? How is rewinding his own time a proper form of payment? What is time, a baumkuchen? Is Sakura-in-the-ruins 7 or 16?
Okay, I'm trying to think rationally here. I agree Shaoran has probably, essentially, lived his life twice: once with Sakura, and the other in the tube. Which should mean that Sakura-in-the-ruins has only lived the part of that time from when they were little until recently: thus she shouldn't have lived her life twice, just once, right? (This answers my question about her being 7 or 16, because she'd have to be 16.)
If Kurogane or Fai don't make a comment about this being confusing, I might have to throw something.
On the upside, I think this obviates our issues with Touya not knowing about Shaoran being with Sakura "zutto."
Hmmm, I thought Sakura-in-the-ruins was a past version of the real one. Are you proposing it's a current alternate version instead?
I thought about having Sakura frozen in time, but seeing what happened to the townspeople makes it a bit awkward to accomodate enough time for Shaoran to grow up. So let's try something else.
She grows up with Shaoran. Something happens that makes Shaoran go to Yuuko and strike the deal with her. The "time" payment doesn't merely rewind Shaoran's age, but effectively removes him from the past. This not being enough, Fei Wang comes in and puts a clone in Shaoran's place. So Sakura's 7-8 years that she spent with Shaoran are written off, and now she spent those years with other-Shaoran instead. The Sakura who grew up with Shaoran is blasted off to oblivion like war-of-the-sexes Shara was. Or maybe not quite. (Very wild and cracktastic tangent right there
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1st Question's answer: Well, I guess sort of I am, because they asked Yuuko to send them to where the "real Sakura" was, and here they are in time-loop land. Which is also FWR's world. So definitely the clone's body and the "real Sakura" are here. If Sakura-in-the-ruins is a past version of the real one, that means there are at least 3 Sakuras in this world, which seems to be a lot to me. I guess that's another way of saying I can't recall any reason to assume that Sakura-in-the-ruins is anything but the "real Sakura," no qualifications attached.
I buy your theory right up until the blasted off part, though. If time was rewound and everything but Shaoran's memories of it were erased, would there really be any need to destroy that Sakura, since she'd have forgotten?
Hmmm, I'm counting the replica's body and what's left of the real Sakura as a single Sakura, since they're complements (real Sakura has no body). Though I'm kinda assuming that a past Sakura must exist, kinda like she comes with the package of this fragment of time in the past.
I must've worded that pretty badly. Let's call the Sakura who hasn't met either Shaoran yet "Sakura-0", the 16 one who grew up with real Shaoran "Sakura-1a" and the 16 one who grew up with other Shaoran "Sakura-1b" (actually there might be space for one more who grew up without either Shaoran, but so far she's been irrelevant). I'm considering Sakura-1a and Sakura-1b to be different, incompatible existences. I'd make a quantum physics parallel here but I'm afraid that'd cause dead physicists to turn in their graves. Anyway, the destruction of Sakura-1a is the very fact that the condition for Sakura-0 to develop into her was removed. It's not quite that "Sakura" is destroyed, it's more like the possibility called Sakura-1a got "pruned" off the timeline.
Ok, good you cleared up the whatnot at the top. I'm counting the clone's body as the clone's body, and the "real Sakura" as the one who was cloned in the ruins in chapter 1, to whom FWR doesn't know/care what happened.
Which, now that I've laid out my own definition of terms, makes me think that the Sakura-who-was-cloned may be the Sakura-in-the-ruins that they are on their way to see. The question is, does the Sakura-who-was-cloned correspond to your Sakura-1a, Sakura-1b, or Sakura-0? The Sakura-who-was-cloned is Sakura-1b, no doubt. I'm still inclined to apply Occam's Razor and say that Sakura-1b is the Sakura-in-the-ruins they're going to see. I think I can imagine your non-existent quantum physics analogy, but given the pinpoint nature of Yuuko's powers, I'm not convinced that Shaoran paying with his own time would prune the Sakura-1a possibility off the timeline. But I'm quite possibly wrong.
Okay, I'm trying to think rationally here. I agree Shaoran has probably, essentially, lived his life twice: once with Sakura, and the other in the tube. Which should mean that Sakura-in-the-ruins has only lived the part of that time from when they were little until recently: thus she shouldn't have lived her life twice, just once, right? (This answers my question about her being 7 or 16, because she'd have to be 16.)
If Kurogane or Fai don't make a comment about this being confusing, I might have to throw something.
On the upside, I think this obviates our issues with Touya not knowing about Shaoran being with Sakura "zutto."
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I thought about having Sakura frozen in time, but seeing what happened to the townspeople makes it a bit awkward to accomodate enough time for Shaoran to grow up. So let's try something else.
She grows up with Shaoran. Something happens that makes Shaoran go to Yuuko and strike the deal with her. The "time" payment doesn't merely rewind Shaoran's age, but effectively removes him from the past. This not being enough, Fei Wang comes in and puts a clone in Shaoran's place. So Sakura's 7-8 years that she spent with Shaoran are written off, and now she spent those years with other-Shaoran instead. The Sakura who grew up with Shaoran is blasted off to oblivion like war-of-the-sexes Shara was. Or maybe not quite. (Very wild and cracktastic tangent right there ( ... )
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I buy your theory right up until the blasted off part, though. If time was rewound and everything but Shaoran's memories of it were erased, would there really be any need to destroy that Sakura, since she'd have forgotten?
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I must've worded that pretty badly. Let's call the Sakura who hasn't met either Shaoran yet "Sakura-0", the 16 one who grew up with real Shaoran "Sakura-1a" and the 16 one who grew up with other Shaoran "Sakura-1b" (actually there might be space for one more who grew up without either Shaoran, but so far she's been irrelevant). I'm considering Sakura-1a and Sakura-1b to be different, incompatible existences. I'd make a quantum physics parallel here but I'm afraid that'd cause dead physicists to turn in their graves. Anyway, the destruction of Sakura-1a is the very fact that the condition for Sakura-0 to develop into her was removed. It's not quite that "Sakura" is destroyed, it's more like the possibility called Sakura-1a got "pruned" off the timeline.
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Ok, good you cleared up the whatnot at the top. I'm counting the clone's body as the clone's body, and the "real Sakura" as the one who was cloned in the ruins in chapter 1, to whom FWR doesn't know/care what happened.
Which, now that I've laid out my own definition of terms, makes me think that the Sakura-who-was-cloned may be the Sakura-in-the-ruins that they are on their way to see. The question is, does the Sakura-who-was-cloned correspond to your Sakura-1a, Sakura-1b, or Sakura-0? The Sakura-who-was-cloned is Sakura-1b, no doubt. I'm still inclined to apply Occam's Razor and say that Sakura-1b is the Sakura-in-the-ruins they're going to see. I think I can imagine your non-existent quantum physics analogy, but given the pinpoint nature of Yuuko's powers, I'm not convinced that Shaoran paying with his own time would prune the Sakura-1a possibility off the timeline. But I'm quite possibly wrong.
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