I love this skit.

May 13, 2011 18:23

...it's a little sad though, because I can do the same thing about NYC's clubs. You can watch Stefon skits here and here.


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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 00:22:52 UTC
[Guess who's drunk :')]

...I somehow feel that these two videos have been more educational than either of my trips to New York were.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 00:44:54 UTC
To be fair, there isn't anything here quite as extreme as some of what Stefon describes. But we do have a healthy amount of dungeon culture here.

What'd you do on your trips here? If you don't mind me asking.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 00:55:35 UTC
I live in Tokyo. There's all kinds of weird things.

Oooooooh. A lot. I went ice skating in the center of this big shopping area! Saw bands perform, went to the top of some building, saw the Statue of Liberty from some beach, Central Park a couple of times -there's a castle there!-, I got lost while following a couple and listening to them fight, toooo many book stores, we went out a couple of nights, a few of museums, aaaand pretty much every other tourist thing that we could think of until we were sick of people and stayed in -- one of the times I was there it was winter and reeeeally cold so we didn't do much then.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 01:07:17 UTC
Now you've got me curious. What kinds of weird things?

Wow, that sounds really busy. Lots of book stores, huh? What do you like to read?

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 01:25:22 UTC
Anything you could think of and then three times that where you'd never imagine the fetish and/or it shouldn't be possible that it's a turn on. I don't know, you have the Internet -- go look it up. I stick to nice, relatively normal places and even then I still don't venture anywhere near the WC.

Nooooo. Not even a little bit. I mean, it's fine but I don't have any time at all to even have a social life or relationships let alone read a whole bunch of books. But apparently I attract a lot of shut-in hermit types with book fixations and they lie about going somewhere interesting and we instead detour to some creepy old dusty bookshop that's like... two stories up and unmarked.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 01:35:55 UTC
...I didn't read the book question right but you can still pick an answer out of there probably.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 11:10:28 UTC
I met a Japanese man once that fetishized the bombings of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, wanting to roleplay out scenarios of the aftermath with gas masks and hazmat suits. I'm trying to think of anything that could be more extreme than fetishizing that big of a disaster.

I don't like reading too much either - though I impulsively buy magazines. Article-length reading I can handle, plus there's all the glossy pictures. Bet Lacroix would try to veer you into bookstores, though; he reads pretty avidly.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 11:21:59 UTC
I'll get you more coherent and actual question-answering responses today.

That... is not surprising and yet still disturbing. There is a host club on the other side of a neighboring block from where I work and -out of all the things- I find them the most annoying and creepy.

I don't really buy magazines but I would imagine that I'd be the same. There are photography ones in my house now thanks to an increased presence from the boyfriend and occasionally I flip through those, but... It really is an issue of free time. I just don't want to spend what little I may have sitting and reading anything.

And Lacroix reads a lot? That surprises me a bit. I know he has classes but I always pictured him as... being more active.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 11:51:29 UTC
Host clubs are pretty harmless though, right? Nothing wrong for paying for a little attention when you can't get it for free.

I can't imagine owning a business as large as yours. I'm used to having a lot of free time. Just shows how hard-working you are, though.

He's been reading a lot about Voodoo and Vodou lately -- those weren't things Hector instructed him to read. Though you're definitely right - he jumps around playing video games too, so I've heard. Haven't seen that myself yet.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 11:56:55 UTC
I don't really think they're harmless, though. Plus when the hosts need customers they go out and pretend to be interested in people.

What do you do?

...Voodoo. I don't know why it still surprises me that all my friends are interested in this stuff. It's like I'm a magnet.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 12:15:51 UTC
It's just acting. No different than what strippers do. When people pay for a service, they can expect to receive something in return. When they don't pay, then don't get anything. Just like with any business.

Retail slave.

He's pretty interested in that stuff, yeah. Says he believes in ghosts and everything.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 12:22:03 UTC
It's a different arrangement. Strippers are up on a literal pedestal -- unattainable and just for show. Hosts cuddle up to you and will say whatever they have to in order to keep the money coming. It's really creepy.

Ah, I think I asked you that when we first met. What do you do besides retail slave?

Yeah, I seem to attract those sorts as well. You don't believe in them?

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 13:44:11 UTC
Not... really. Yes, they're up on stage for a couple songs, but then they walk around and interact with customers on the floor. There's lap dances, where usually the dancer is allowed to touch you but you're not allowed to touch the dancer. And then champagne rooms, where strippers will do anything from private dances to play therapist if all the client wants to do is talk. Or at least that's how it is in the U.S. - I'm not really familiar with how it is in Japan.

What makes you think I do anything besides retail?

Not exactly. Maybe if I had proof, but I'm sort of a skeptic when it comes to all things paranormal.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 14:10:16 UTC
Public voyeurism isn't actually... appealing to me at all in that setting, so I have no idea what they do in those places. But it just seems to me that the strippers are more sex oriented and the hosts are more false relationships. I know there are overlaps in both areas (certainly there are hosts who double as sex-workers) but in the most basic sense...

I assumed you had some kind of life outside of your job.

...Proof is probably worse.

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asher_embry May 14 2011, 15:11:23 UTC
But if customers know in advance that hosts aren't serious, that it's just a fantasy, then what's the problem?

I have a dog - a black pomeranian named Zoey, and she is my princess. I love Thai food. I have a ridiculously large collection of boots. I have an interest in human rights. I tend to watch reality TV. Things of that nature.

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dainty_ofcourse May 14 2011, 16:03:22 UTC
It's not a problem if the host also keeps his clients mental health and situation in mind -- unfortunately when they need/want the money then other people probably take a back seat. I've known hosts (as acquaintances), I've passed by other host club/bars that were less seedy, and I've seen some try to hook in clients. As with everything, it depends on the individual but... It just doesn't create a very healthy situation. Especially considering their main client base.

O-oh my gosh. I had to look up what a pomeranian was but... Is that a real dog?

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