I know I shouldn't post about this..

[ash48]

but *shrugs* ... I'm trying to make some sense of this, so yeah...blogging against my better judgement.

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[redteekal]

In a word. THIS. And now in some more words because English teachers just can't not. LOL. I have often struggled (and pretty much given up) on understanding how people have lost their faith, their zing, their zeal, their interest, their investment in this show. I don't understand how in a show that has never made any bones about being the story of two brothers how one brother's story arc can be prioritised over another. I absolutely understand if you like one character more than the other and it's fantastic that the show has two such rich, vibrant and different characters that there are clear cut favourites for fans but I can't comprehend how such a liking seems to somehow lead to giving more significance and weight to one over the other. To the extent that the show has been wrecked for you, destroyed forever? What the? These two brothers are so intrinsically and explicably completely characterised by each other. And yet they are each very unique and individual characters but this show and the stories it tells has been and is always

[ash48]

Hey honey

[yaya_wr8t3r]

I would think Sam fans would be happy, they got a story that showed somethings Sam did a year ago with Samuel. We got to see that parallel with Sammy seeing what his soulless self did and his reaction to it. Also, the ending is proof that we'll be seeing Sam's pov on things. As for the Dean fans I would think they'd love Dean's story, he's finally being the Dean they longed for, the big brother. I don't know. Like you I don't just watch one storyline, I love both boys even though I'm attached more to Sam than Dean. I still want to see both their story lines and see both povs. I love how they balance each other, when Sam's being hardheaded and a fanatic, Dean is mellow and levelheaded and vice versa. Can you imagine if there was only one brother?! :O

[ash48]

The sense I'm getting is that Dean investors (hee... see how I am avoiding "dean girls"..) aren't that happy with Dean being the big brother. I think that's what confused me a little bit, because that's crucial to his character and (I think) to his happiness. So yeah... I feel like I'm missing something there.

I too think they balance each other out. I also see an ebb and flow of the story lines. Sometimes Dean, sometimes Sam but essentially it comes back to them both.

And no... I cannot imagine one brother at all! It would be just too weird (and sad) to contemplate.

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[growyourwings]

Just had to chime in as a bi-bro Dean!girl (and proud of it)...One of the things I love the most about the character of Dean is his big brotherness. His prime-directive to watch out for Sam. And I agree that they balance each other out. I could not imagine one without the other. I just wouldn't be watching the show.

[missyjack]

There are a few of us who believe that overall, Supernatural is Sam's story, told from Dean's POV. Which is why both sides often get frustrated!

But hey the best opinion on it is this quote I uncovered the other day from an old interview by Sera, asked about fandom:

"I will boldly admit to being a life-long Trekkie. I was born and bred on the cheesy rock set and William Shatner. So I am well aware of what it is to be part of a fandom.

And fandom is defined by meticulous care and really giving a shit and having strong opinions and arguing. It’s a community with opinions. If they were in a room they’d be fist-fighting some of the time. You know, the Sam Girls and the Dean Girls would be like pulling each other’s hair, some of them! That goes with the territory, and it’s also immensely rewarding because they’re giving a shit and they’re paying attention."

Sera is my constant ;D

[ash48]

Ahh MJ, eloquently put.

There are a few of us who believe that overall, Supernatural is Sam's story, told from Dean's POV. Which is why both sides often get frustrated!

Oh yes. yes. I can see that and I don't mind that at all... maybe that's why I don't get as frustrated about the personal story lines.

And Sera is awesome. Obviously in tune with the whole thing.

There are times I feel like I forgot to pick up the Fandom Guidebook when I booked this ride... :)

Thanks for the quote. I think I'll be coming back to that a few times.
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[smilla02]

Oh yes. yes. I can see that and I don't mind that at all...
Then you know why some of us are frustrated by it all. If it's a story about two brothers it can't be the story of Sam via Dean's POV.

[And I don't agree that the story is the story of Sam via Dean's POV. In fact I think that Sam has plently of POV and that Dean has plently of storylines. Only this season it's been hard to see - Dean's story, I mean - but it's not like the season is over.]

Anyhow, my take: both Dean and Sam have been boxed in, this season, in the the little brother/big brother dynamic, protected/protector. What I hope is that they emerge from it. Also, in a sense, Dean has this time around, way more emotional treads up (Lisa and Ben are still out there, aren't they? Though I wonder for how long).

[ash48]

Then you know why some of us are frustrated by it all. If it's a story about two brothers it can't be the story of Sam via Dean's POV.

Yes, I can understand that.

I've never really considered it has Sam's story through Dean's before. I've only ever really seen it has a story of both the boys- with the POV's alternating. But if it is Sam's story through Dean's eyes then I'm not sure that would bother me so much. I still think we are getting both of the boys' stories. But... and this is why I've written this - I'm missing something that both Dean and Sam investors are getting frustrated with. That's not to say I don't understand it. I do. But I'm not feeling that level of frustration.

What I hope is that they emerge from it.

I am really interested to see if they do work toward this. I think it would give their journeys (over the last 5.5 seasons) some real meaning.

Lisa and Ben are still out there, aren't they?God, I hope so. I was thinking about them the other day and wondering how they will be brought back into the story

[greenpear]

I see that the same type of insanity permeates every fandom. Sort of like when we got a new Doctor last year.

I much prefer to just sit back and enjoy being entertained without having a fit cause TPTB changed something I didn't like.

Just plug your ears and sing ** la-la-la-la **

[ash48]

Oh hey!

Yeah... I think I'm still learning about this whole fandom thing. I usually stick to my little corner and don't venture too far. When I do I usually end up ranting...

I'll practice the *la-la-la-la* thing.

(though I usually find the discussion interesting...*g*)
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[greenpear]

Yeah, been away from LJ for a while.

It's winter. And I don't do well in winter. The only things I've been posting are my vids.

[geminigrl11]

To be honest, my reasoon for not being invested in the show is the very reason you are so invested. I want both boys' stories to be told fairly (and don't think they are, at times) but mostly I want the boys as a team, working together, being eyerolly men but still on the same page, having their relationship be unquestioned and (apart from an infreqent ep or two) unassaulted. And I feel like all the show has done since S4 is rip them apart more and more and not really put them back together again. Things seem to be on track at this point...better than they've been in a long time...but I don't ttrust the show to keep it that way. Having the boys at serious odds once is dramatic tension. Having it happen over long periods is heart-wrenching and has killed my joy in the show. At this point, I don't know if I will ever get that back.

[ash48]

Yes. I totally get that. There are times that I am amazed have lasted this long, considering how far apart the boys have been torn. Soulless!Sam was almost the last straw. But I suppose I've hung on because I want to see the moments that they are brought back together - because I know that at some point they will be. But yeah... unfortunately they have been more apart than together recently and it has been tough going.

I am SO hopeful that they are now back together for good. I honestly don't think I could stick around for much longer if they drive them apart again.

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