Re: Jane & condensed version of every episode of Alias.faith21May 23 2004, 22:14:30 UTC
I don't need the eye-roll tag when I'm being serious. -smirk- Of course not, I can tell my your tone of voice prose, what you mean ... {head-scratch}. I just mean that I would have said if I was joking in that case. This is too complicated now. On to Alias, which is so simple that it's multiple season can be summed up in a paragraph.
i.e. in short 'No', you've seen Buffy, this is a bad retread in James Bond format. That's what I figured/what it looks like. Although don't forget the running to techno music while wearing the skimpy outfits. That happens too.
Re: Jane I liked it, but didn't love it. Same here. I thought it was interesting that they never exactly told her she had lime disease. I'd be a little worried that I was 'crazy' but I'll 'get well soon.' but I did like mother being having pseudo-visions and Grandma everwood with the father, those were nice touches. I liked those parts as well.
I'm sure I've said it before, but Salvage is the best Faith episode ever, and definitely one of the best Angel's as well. It really is. I had forgotten about it being on, so I tuned in right before the decapitation of Lilah. Today's rerun was 'Happy Anniversary.' Amusing in parts, but nothing wonderful.
Classic heroism, Alias, Angel S2ascii_70_85May 24 2004, 22:47:13 UTC
On to Alias, which is so simple that it's multiple season can be summed up in a paragraph. I didn't sum up the last 3 seasons, but I see the specific events as being unimportant, as it all is just a frantic race to get to the next McGuffin, or 'earth shattering' realization. Every episode is super over the top tense, there are few quiet or subtle episodes it's always over the top-end of the world, It loses (or lost) its impact very quickly.
i.e. in short 'No', you've seen Buffy, this is a bad retread in James Bond format. That's what I figured/what it looks like. Although don't forget the running to techno music while wearing the skimpy outfits. That happens too. ahem ... I didn't forget (see condensed description for details).
Re: Jane I liked it, but didn't love it. Same here. I thought it was interesting that they never exactly told her she had lime disease. I think that's assumed.
I'd be a little worried that I was 'crazy' but I'll 'get well soon.' huh? {confused} I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think? Save for if you're Jane of course and that means that 'God is Dead'.
I'm sure I've said it before, but Salvage is the best Faith episode ever, and definitely one of the best Angel's as well. It really is. I had forgotten about it being on, so I tuned in right before the decapitation of Lilah. As I recall, the episode up to that point is okay, but then they start with Faith. Was Buffy ever that cool? Maybe S5, and here and there.
I loved that. No B.S., totally in control, no crap, -- just right down to business. Of course if they did that every episode the series would be short, either A) because all the bad guys would get killed in 20 minutes, or B) because 'our heroes' would get killed.
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge. I'm not talking didactic nobility, but a classic type hero against the odds. Despite the B.S.
Every other show (and even Whedonesque, much of the time), there so much Soap Opera crap to sort through, it does go w/ the story, but some time it gets old and tired. I think that's why I liked Firefly. Didn't they do this type of thing a lot. Not as pointed as 'Salvage', but still sort of in that spirit. Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'.
Today's rerun was 'Happy Anniversary.' Amusing in parts, but nothing wonderful. Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that (Though Lorne is in top form in that episode), 'The Shroud of Rahmon' (there was just something about that one I didn't like), or 'Guise Will Be Guise' (which while cute and funny was a bit obnoxious as well, I think this is the last good appearance of Wesley 'Rogue Demon Hunter'). There are no terribly horrible episodes I can think of, and even those have their almost redeeming qualities or charms.
Re: Classic heroism, Alias, Angel S2faith21May 25 2004, 21:55:43 UTC
ahem ... I didn't forget [the running w/ skimpy outfits] ah, I thought you were mentioning them as happening separately, what I've seen of the show she has to put on the skimpy outfit & then run around.
I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think? Makes it sound like they're shipping you off to an institution. All I was expecting was, "you had lime disease, but the doctor is going to make you all better"
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge. Instead of Buffy's 374214 speeches in season 7, you mean?
Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'. Such a great scene. Never so much with the talking on that show, mainly because people had guns.
Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that -laughs- Yeah, I figured. Lorne is great in it though.
'The Shroud of Rahmon' was silly or something also. I didn't like it either. [although I liked Angel's impersonation of the guy that he kills] 'Guise Will Be Guise' not great, but like you said, cute and funny. More focus than usual on Wes, which was nice. And surprisingly enough, Virginia actually appeared on the show after that instead of disappearing immediately.
T.V. analyzed.ascii_70_85May 25 2004, 22:53:28 UTC
Alias ah, I thought you were mentioning them as happening separately, what I've seen of the show she has to put on the skimpy outfit & then run around. Usually she already has it on... putting it on is usually not a feature. I assume you're referring to the super-bowl one... with the black and red lingerie, while they are unabashedly selling sex, sadly it's usually not that blatant.
Events in the said condensed version, may not be in sequence, though most of them are likely to occur in a given episode.
I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think? Makes it sound like they're shipping you off to an institution. All I was expecting was, "you had lime disease, but the doctor is going to make you all better" Oh the pacification. "We're going to take you to a place where they're going to take good care of you."
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge. Instead of Buffy's 374214 speeches in season 7, you mean? They would be interesting speeches if they didn't all say the same thing... The first and last ones were good. but between, If I recall correctly, is when S7 got into a bit of a rut.
It's not so much the speeches or the action, it's about laying things out in a concise clear-headed manner and making choices, instead of being whiny and dramatic about it all the time.
Feeling have their place, but it seems like most shows and sometimes Whedonesque, want to put them prominently displayed in the forefront of every scene. It's more interesting when you have the subtle subtext. That's part of went wrong with AtS S5, little subtext, hardly any of it subtle.
Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'. Such a great scene. Never so much with the talking on that show, mainly because people had guns. Sometimes talking, But sometimes not. I like how they spend about half 30 - 20 minutes building up the tension of that plot line, and they resolve in about 1 - 2 minutes.
Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that -laughs- Yeah, I figured. Lorne is great in it though. Lorne was great in S2, S3, and the first half of S4. Then he became a cast member and received. No more character development. S2 I think was his best. Maybe Lorne's tenure as cast member was Andy Hallet's deferred compensation.
'The Shroud of Rahmon' was silly or something also. I didn't like it either. [although I liked Angel's impersonation of the guy that he kills] You mean Vegas obnoxious? I hated that. I hated the 'joker' outfit. I think that might be the worst episode of the season.
Re: T.V. analyzed.faith21May 26 2004, 16:26:02 UTC
I assume you're referring to the super-bowl one... Yes I am, the rest I only know of in commercials and such.
You mean Vegas obnoxious? I hated that. I hated the 'joker' outfit. I think that might be the worst episode of the season. Yep. I liked David goofing around. The episode as a whole was terrible though, I agree on that.
Angel goofiness.ascii_70_85May 27 2004, 00:25:02 UTC
The best episode for Angel goofiness is 1.13 'She' the beginning of the episode is fantastic, the actual plot of the episode is an obnoxious thinly veiled allegory in the style of Star Trek, as well as other offenses, but the beginning is great.
Re: Angel goofiness.faith21May 28 2004, 21:10:51 UTC
The best episode for Angel goofiness is 1.13 'She' the beginning of the episode is fantastic Ahh yes, the dancing and such. I also love the scene where Angel sings 'Mandy'. Especially the outtakes at the end.
Manilow & disco.ascii_70_85June 1 2004, 22:11:56 UTC
Yeah, that was a great bit 'cause it left Angel all dark and dank, but that doesn't mean he can't have an occasional kooky thought. The "I don't dance" after that disco-sequence, was icing on the cake. See 'witty' not 'stupid'.
The Angel Karaoke was a great bit before they decided "Mandy" was Deanna Troi's Chocolate. To make it more so plain, they every time they mention his Manilow obsession, it's always 'Mandy', which granted worked great in that bit, but Manilow has other songs ... I imagine many of them would also work in a similar over-the-top-comical vein.
Off-topic: Though it is in reruns now, they moved Scrubs back to Thurs. @ 9:30, just to piss me (us?) off.
Re: Manilow & disco.faith21June 2 2004, 03:24:36 UTC
Though it is in reruns now, they moved Scrubs back to Thurs. @ 9:30, just to piss me (us?) off. I'll have to watch when I remember/if I get a chance because I haven't seen most of them. At least they renewed it for two years.
They renewed it!?! for two years!?! I required one -- it needs one year to be syndicated, and it needs to be syndicated. Two is very cool though, provided of course it stays in form, even if it does not still probably better than everything else on T.V.
Maybe all the network execs aren't doing crack, now if the people in charge of scheduling would just lay off the pipe.
Of course not, I can tell my your tone of voice prose, what you mean ... {head-scratch}.
I just mean that I would have said if I was joking in that case. This is too complicated now. On to Alias, which is so simple that it's multiple season can be summed up in a paragraph.
i.e. in short 'No', you've seen Buffy, this is a bad retread in James Bond format.
That's what I figured/what it looks like. Although don't forget the running to techno music while wearing the skimpy outfits. That happens too.
Re: Jane
I liked it, but didn't love it.
Same here. I thought it was interesting that they never exactly told her she had lime disease. I'd be a little worried that I was 'crazy' but I'll 'get well soon.'
but I did like mother being having pseudo-visions and Grandma everwood with the father, those were nice touches.
I liked those parts as well.
I'm sure I've said it before, but Salvage is the best Faith episode ever, and definitely one of the best Angel's as well.
It really is. I had forgotten about it being on, so I tuned in right before the decapitation of Lilah. Today's rerun was 'Happy Anniversary.' Amusing in parts, but nothing wonderful.
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I didn't sum up the last 3 seasons, but I see the specific events as being unimportant, as it all is just a frantic race to get to the next McGuffin, or 'earth shattering' realization. Every episode is super over the top tense, there are few quiet or subtle episodes it's always over the top-end of the world, It loses (or lost) its impact very quickly.
i.e. in short 'No', you've seen Buffy, this is a bad retread in James Bond format.
That's what I figured/what it looks like. Although don't forget the running to techno music while wearing the skimpy outfits. That happens too.
ahem ... I didn't forget (see condensed description for details).
Re: Jane
I liked it, but didn't love it.
Same here. I thought it was interesting that they never exactly told her she had lime disease.
I think that's assumed.
I'd be a little worried that I was 'crazy' but I'll 'get well soon.'
huh? {confused} I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think? Save for if you're Jane of course and that means that 'God is Dead'.
I'm sure I've said it before, but Salvage is the best Faith episode ever, and definitely one of the best Angel's as well.
It really is. I had forgotten about it being on, so I tuned in right before the decapitation of Lilah.
As I recall, the episode up to that point is okay, but then they start with Faith. Was Buffy ever that cool? Maybe S5, and here and there.
I loved that. No B.S., totally in control, no crap, -- just right down to business. Of course if they did that every episode the series would be short, either A) because all the bad guys would get killed in 20 minutes, or B) because 'our heroes' would get killed.
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge. I'm not talking didactic nobility, but a classic type hero against the odds. Despite the B.S.
Every other show (and even Whedonesque, much of the time), there so much Soap Opera crap to sort through, it does go w/ the story, but some time it gets old and tired. I think that's why I liked Firefly. Didn't they do this type of thing a lot. Not as pointed as 'Salvage', but still sort of in that spirit. Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'.
Today's rerun was 'Happy Anniversary.' Amusing in parts, but nothing wonderful.
Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that (Though Lorne is in top form in that episode),
'The Shroud of Rahmon' (there was just something about that one I didn't like),
or 'Guise Will Be Guise' (which while cute and funny was a bit obnoxious as well, I think this is the last good appearance of Wesley 'Rogue Demon Hunter').
There are no terribly horrible episodes I can think of, and even those have their almost redeeming qualities or charms.
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ah, I thought you were mentioning them as happening separately, what I've seen of the show she has to put on the skimpy outfit & then run around.
I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think?
Makes it sound like they're shipping you off to an institution. All I was expecting was, "you had lime disease, but the doctor is going to make you all better"
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge.
Instead of Buffy's 374214 speeches in season 7, you mean?
Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'.
Such a great scene. Never so much with the talking on that show, mainly because people had guns.
Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that
-laughs- Yeah, I figured. Lorne is great in it though.
'The Shroud of Rahmon' was silly or something also. I didn't like it either. [although I liked Angel's impersonation of the guy that he kills]
'Guise Will Be Guise' not great, but like you said, cute and funny. More focus than usual on Wes, which was nice. And surprisingly enough, Virginia actually appeared on the show after that instead of disappearing immediately.
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ah, I thought you were mentioning them as happening separately, what I've seen of the show she has to put on the skimpy outfit & then run around.
Usually she already has it on... putting it on is usually not a feature. I assume you're referring to the super-bowl one... with the black and red lingerie, while they are unabashedly selling sex, sadly it's usually not that blatant.
Events in the said condensed version, may not be in sequence, though most of them are likely to occur in a given episode.
I'd be worried I was psychotic, thus didn't know what I was doing, but if I'm getting well soon, that's a good thing, I'd think?
Makes it sound like they're shipping you off to an institution. All I was expecting was, "you had lime disease, but the doctor is going to make you all better"
Oh the pacification. "We're going to take you to a place where they're going to take good care of you."
I understand you need to have some character conflict and whatnot every now and then, but why can't they have an episode like that every now and again too. Hero takes charge.
Instead of Buffy's 374214 speeches in season 7, you mean?
They would be interesting speeches if they didn't all say the same thing... The first and last ones were good. but between, If I recall correctly, is when S7 got into a bit of a rut.
It's not so much the speeches or the action, it's about laying things out in a concise clear-headed manner and making choices, instead of being whiny and dramatic about it all the time.
Feeling have their place, but it seems like most shows and sometimes Whedonesque, want to put them prominently displayed in the forefront of every scene. It's more interesting when you have the subtle subtext. That's part of went wrong with AtS S5, little subtext, hardly any of it subtle.
Like when Mal shot the Dobson 'Serenity'.
Such a great scene. Never so much with the talking on that show, mainly because people had guns.
Sometimes talking, But sometimes not. I like how they spend about half 30 - 20 minutes building up the tension of that plot line, and they resolve in about 1 - 2 minutes.
Yeah, when referring to the greatness and wonder of S2 I wasn't talking about that
-laughs- Yeah, I figured. Lorne is great in it though.
Lorne was great in S2, S3, and the first half of S4. Then he became a cast member and received. No more character development. S2 I think was his best. Maybe Lorne's tenure as cast member was Andy Hallet's deferred compensation.
'The Shroud of Rahmon' was silly or something also. I didn't like it either. [although I liked Angel's impersonation of the guy that he kills]
You mean Vegas obnoxious? I hated that. I hated the 'joker' outfit. I think that might be the worst episode of the season.
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Yes I am, the rest I only know of in commercials and such.
You mean Vegas obnoxious? I hated that. I hated the 'joker' outfit. I think that might be the worst episode of the season.
Yep. I liked David goofing around. The episode as a whole was terrible though, I agree on that.
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Ahh yes, the dancing and such. I also love the scene where Angel sings 'Mandy'. Especially the outtakes at the end.
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The Angel Karaoke was a great bit before they decided "Mandy" was Deanna Troi's Chocolate. To make it more so plain, they every time they mention his Manilow obsession, it's always 'Mandy', which granted worked great in that bit, but Manilow has other songs ... I imagine many of them would also work in a similar over-the-top-comical vein.
Off-topic: Though it is in reruns now, they moved Scrubs back to Thurs. @ 9:30, just to piss me (us?) off.
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I'll have to watch when I remember/if I get a chance because I haven't seen most of them. At least they renewed it for two years.
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They renewed it!?! for two years!?! I required one -- it needs one year to be syndicated, and it needs to be syndicated. Two is very cool though, provided of course it stays in form, even if it does not still probably better than everything else on T.V.
Maybe all the network execs aren't doing crack, now if the people in charge of scheduling would just lay off the pipe.
I didn't know that. That's very cool. Thanks.
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You're welcome. Glad I could bring some good television news for once.
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