"The universe must be such to allow the presence of observers within it."
--some physicist whose name i forgot just now--
Now, that's a pretty quote. Nice. But i was thinking about it, and i turned it around, you know, inverse implications and the like. What if the universe was not such to allow observers within it? Would a universe like that then be said to not exist at all?
I don't like that one bit. Nope.
The point being that even non-sentient things are worth having around.
Though those among the sentient are more fun, if only for things like Softer World, Spanish accents, and peanut butter candy. But it must be noted that nothing among conscious life could exist without the sub/unconscious framework.
But therein lies another problem: i think it is morally wrong (and fundamentally dualistic) for us to view the unconscious as a 'framework' or the 'bedrock' or whatever on which our higher-more-advanced-and-supremely-beautiful-mental-mynds reside (because the obvious extension of this is that the unconscious does not matter, and can be has been exploited). Dualism's foundations are from categorizing the conscious away from the unconscious, and these things fundamentally cannot be considered separate. Consciousness is a very specialized type of unconsciousness.
Consciousness arizes from lots (okay, i have no idea how many) of unconscious activities--both simultaneously in our brain/nervous system and for billions of years in time--that have formed a unique way of gaining information from each other. We choose to call ourselves conscious; the naming of the 'fact' created the fact. No other previous lifeform had had the need to name itself. They all just were.
Even if they didn't know it, they were.
Since i'm on the topic, does a blog without readers exist at all?
You could tell me what you think, or by your silence i'll suppose i don't exist.
i like that beginning quote a lot as it relates to physics, but not to anything else. As if they could be kept separate.
End Rant, Reason #452.07 Why Dualism Sucks
Now, that's a pretty quote. Nice. But i was thinking about it, and i turned it around, you know, inverse implications and the like. What if the universe was not such to allow observers within it? Would a universe like that then be said to not exist at all?
I don't like that one bit. Nope.
The point being that even non-sentient things are worth having around.
Though those among the sentient are more fun, if only for things like Softer World, Spanish accents, and peanut butter candy. But it must be noted that nothing among conscious life could exist without the sub/unconscious framework.
But therein lies another problem: i think it is morally wrong (and fundamentally dualistic) for us to view the unconscious as a 'framework' or the 'bedrock' or whatever on which our higher-more-advanced-and-supremely-beautiful-mental-mynds reside (because the obvious extension of this is that the unconscious does not matter, and can be has been exploited). Dualism's foundations are from categorizing the conscious away from the unconscious, and these things fundamentally cannot be considered separate. Consciousness is a very specialized type of unconsciousness.
Consciousness arizes from lots (okay, i have no idea how many) of unconscious activities--both simultaneously in our brain/nervous system and for billions of years in time--that have formed a unique way of gaining information from each other. We choose to call ourselves conscious; the naming of the 'fact' created the fact. No other previous lifeform had had the need to name itself. They all just were.
Even if they didn't know it, they were.
Since i'm on the topic, does a blog without readers exist at all?
You could tell me what you think, or by your silence i'll suppose i don't exist.
i like that beginning quote a lot as it relates to physics, but not to anything else. As if they could be kept separate.
End Rant, Reason #452.07 Why Dualism Sucks