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PotC fic -- Dream Tides

Jul 05, 2007 14:07

Next in the Outlaws and Inlaws series, Dream Tides. In which Will Turner has a strange conversation with Calypso, and much is revealed. Gen, with background Will/Elizabeth, Will/Jack, Jack/Elizabeth, Jack/Calypso. SPOILERS FOR AWE LIKE WOAH!

The other stories in the series are here: Swan in Flight, Outlaws and Inlaws, Four Days of Advent and ( Read more... )

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veronica_rich July 5 2007, 20:48:41 UTC

So many people try to write Captain Will as a saint, and he's not. I think he'd miss things, have regrets, and feel a little bitterness once in a while at his situation. Whether you meant to or not, that's what I took from this, and I'm glad you wrote it that way.

artaxastra July 6 2007, 02:42:42 UTC

I think Will has a lot of regrets. I mean, this is much better than just being dead, but it's still not a bowl of cherries! If there were a way out of it without making things worse, he'd take it. And such a way is about to present itself....

veronica_rich July 10 2007, 05:54:39 UTC

Well, I'll be glad to see it. As for me ... I'd like to see some selfish Will for a change. I don't for a minute imagine he wouldn't have uncharitable thoughts about Jack screwing his wife, no matter how happy he'd want her to be - he's not dead and unfeeling, and she's not a widow. That's just human, and IMO to say Will is "above" that removes the responsibility for caring as much about what happens to him as what happens to Elizabeth or Jack, or James, or the other great characters.

Just your friendly neighborhood Willophile commenting! :-D

artaxastra July 10 2007, 15:13:54 UTC

I think this is one of the reasons that this is moving toward a healthy dose of Jack/Will. Calypso is talking out of both sides of her mouth when she says "Then you’d better be careful, letting Jack Sparrow so near your heart." She's not entirely talking about Elizabeth.

And something did happen between them when Jack was on the Dutchman. It's just that the reader's not supposed to be sure of that at this point, because when Jack told Elizabeth she didn't believe him and thought it was a joke. But Will was incredibly lonely after eight months alone, and gladder to see Jack than he wanted to admit, and bothered more than he'll say about the shape Jack was in. We'll get that story in flashback soon.

So yes, I think Will is jealous, but he doesn't think he can fairly call Elizabeth on sleeping with Jack when he did, and he thinks it would be selfish to hold on to her. But....

This works better as a threesome, I think, and that's where I'm going.

veronica_rich July 10 2007, 21:13:55 UTC

Well, sure, what's sauce for the goose is fair. To better phrase, then: He still might get annoyed about the *amount* of attention Elizabeth and Jack can get from each other, in comparison to what he gets from either of them at sea. And unless Calypso really hates him for some reason, and I don't believe she does, if he doesn't develop fondness for the sea, she's going to have to consider letting him go or bending his conditions more - surely she's learned her lesson with Davy, about how far a mortal can be pushed before breaking.

artaxastra July 11 2007, 15:39:40 UTC

He still might get annoyed about the *amount* of attention Elizabeth and Jack can get from each other, in comparison to what he gets from either of them at sea.

I think he gets just plain lonely. At most, he gets a few hours a month with them and with Flipper. It's not that he wants Elizabeth and Jack to be apart, or that he wants Flipper to see less of them, but just that he's lonely. And it's certainly not their fault -- if Jack hadn't helped him stab the heart he'd be dead, which he doesn't want to be. But he's still lonely.

And unless Calypso really hates him for some reason, and I don't believe she does, if he doesn't develop fondness for the sea, she's going to have to consider letting him go or bending his conditions more - surely she's learned her lesson with Davy, about how far a mortal can be pushed before breaking.Exactly! I think she's learned that, and how much damage that does to everyone lost at sea. Rather than push Will that far, she'd consider letting him go if there were a proper substitute, because "the ( ... )

veronica_rich July 11 2007, 15:41:46 UTC

Unhappiness, death, screwy relationships, guilt, confused children ... it's like "Six Feet Under" of the sea!

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