really?

[arkadiaraduesca]

I've been wondering this for awhile now... is it really 2006? is this seriously the year we're living in? because there are still people dying in mines, the government is tapping our phones and everything we do today radically contradicts our constitutional rights. i guess we didn't totally destroy the Soviet Union

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[arkadiaraduesca]

yes, i know. but one of the reasons we're still stationed in Afghanistan is because if we do catch Osama, we'll try to make sure that other person doesn't arise. as well as humanitarian efforts, but that's beside the point. Inevitably once we leave Al Quada will begin again because this has been a part of Afghanistan's history for centuries- everyone knows about it, and a number support it, but we're trying to stop that at the moment. what do you mean 'do we really want that against us'- we already have it against us! most of afghanistan is going to hate us no matter what we do!

we found out about the "thousands of cases", because like all political scandals, it leaked to the media. now not all political stories are true, but the government has admitted to a number of the cases, as mistakes. which is believable but our government making that many mistakes is kind of suspicious. yes, it is an executive privelege, it isn't illegal if there's suspicion of a national threat, but as said before, many of the cases were with innocents. you can tell if someone's listening in on a conversation if you hear your own voice echoing- you trace the call(perfectly possible since it technically *is* a call), and you see a federal number. kind of unnerving when you've done nothing wrong. as said, that's an invasion of privacy and illegal no matter how much power the president/government has.

[roybert07]

Ever herd of an executive order called The Patriot Act? Yeah, thats what the tapping of phone lines falls under. An executive over out weights the fundamental rights of a US citizen because it is technicaly not a law therefore the bill of rights does not apply. It is a rule or an act that has THE FORCE OF LAW but, it is a matter of wording. Your rights do not apply there and it is perfictly legal for the government to do due to The Patriot Act. Learn what your talkign about befor you go criticising something.

-Le Roi(/gasp defending the American gov't)

[arkadiaraduesca]

don't get an attitude with me when i'm just trying to state a point. if you're going to be an asshole about a simple thing like a debate, don't expect any better treatment from me.

yes, i do know what i'm talking about- obviously not everything, because i did forget about the Patriot Act, admittedly, but believe it or not i do know a thing or two. do not demean me.

its fine to prove me wrong, because i was, but you don't need to get cocky and sarcastic. it's rude and it won't take you anywhere in life.

[arkadiaraduesca]

sorry, that was me, i somehow got signed off...

[roybert07]

The cockiess and sarchasim are completly derived by how yo took the statment. That was MENT in a calm and collected voice. If you took it that way im sorry.

[arkadiaraduesca]

thanks for clearing that up. it's just the way it was said(written) that made me believe you were being cocky with me. such as the way you began- "ever heard of something called the Patriot Act"- that can be easily taken as cockiness and an insult to another's intelligence. also, telling me to learn what i'm talking about isn't exactly a polite statement. just because i don't know everything about the topic does not imply that i know nothing.