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Feb 19, 2017 23:40

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Re: Tennis? arbitrary_greay March 19 2017, 19:24:24 UTC
ITNW was also used to evaluate groups in Produce 101. There was a big deal made of the fact that one of the competitors was once in the running to be in SNSD.

It's interesting that the ITNW dance has gained its mythological stature only with hindsight (outside of the SNSD fandom, anyways), as within the decade, it was so far over-shadowed by the hook dances instead. Tell Me first, and then Gee and Genie. It could be argued that SNSD themselves never came close to matching the skill on display in ITNW until Catch Me If You Can.

Aesthetically, though, with the light cool colors, and the "fresh"/"youthful" way Dreamcatcher are executing the dance, they follow a longer through-line, to ITNW itself positing SNSD as a "sequel" to SES. You and askbask also previously noted early Lovelyz and GFriend going for this image. What's interesting is that this "fresh schoolgirl" aesthetic is now historically linked to rookie SNSD, because their debut peers, Wonder Girls and Kara, did not go for this image initially. (And Kara's take on it would be slightly different)

And this is, oddly enough, a contrast to the Produce 101 performances, which treated ITNW as something to be performed like a veteran (especially Taeyeon's big solo), with a stronger hip hop emphasis on the dancing. Of course, in P101, they were all trying to make themselves stand out compared to their group-mates, whereas Dreamcatcher are truly working as a team entity.

However, note how the Dreamcatcher version of the arrangement lends a stronger electric guitar presence, removes the hints of rap from the dance break. And they change the choreo there to be more of a group effort, as well.

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Re: Tennis? koganbot March 24 2017, 08:40:32 UTC
Interesting: I'd been listening casually last year to I.O.I whenever YouTube threw them at me, with the feeling that they performed really invitingly while the songwriting and singing wasn't up to the rest of the presentation. Had no knowledge of their origin on reality TV.

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Re: Tennis? davidfrazer March 24 2017, 11:26:29 UTC
Pledis's news group Pristin has seven members (out of a ttoal of ten) who were contestants in Produce 101. Two of them, Nayoung and Kyulkyung, made it to I.O.I.

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Re: Tennis? arbitrary_greay March 25 2017, 00:14:54 UTC
Man, Wee Woo feels like a song for Red Velvet, although the chorus ultimately lets me down. Some great visuals there.

Given that the new season of P101 is gonna be a boyband, it should be interesting to see which songs they pick as the ITNW equivalent.
DBSK's Hug or Mirotic? Shinee's Replay? 2PM's Again and Again? Big Bang's Lies or Haru Haru (or Fantastic Baby)? Something something Infinite or BTS?

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Re: Tennis? davidfrazer March 25 2017, 11:13:32 UTC
Pristin are promoting another song that is more...mature:

On the subject of "mature", the first lines in Black Widow are sung by Kyla, who turned fifteen on December 26th.

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