Медицина По-Человечески

Nov 15, 2012 19:29


Я предполагал, что медицина должна стоить гораздо дешевле, когда люди платят за нее напрямую, без посредства страховых компаний, но я не знал, насколько дешевле ( Read more... )

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old_sam November 17 2012, 15:00:28 UTC
Вот тут у нас приятелем вышел спор на эту же тему ( ... )

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arbat November 17 2012, 18:20:48 UTC
It does never make any economic sense to try to fuck the laws of nature in the ass.

Without government intervention, any business will do everything it can to make sure that basic shit is cheap and available. This is the way to the top. This is Ford. This is Microsoft. This is Apple. And so on. This is why this country has cheap and plentiful food. For one simple reason, - if you sell expensive things to the rich, you may become a millionaire. In order to become a billionaire, you must sell cheap basic staff to the poor.

Only an economic illiterate may think that intervention is the "basic" part of the market is small and harmless, - because the basic part is HUGE.

Someone wants to remove incentives for the businesses to produce cheap basic things? Fine, go ahead.
Don't be surprised when the result is the same that commies achieved trying to provide USSR with "basic" food.

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darth_sipid November 17 2012, 21:19:19 UTC
..basic shit is cheap and available.. This is Apple.
Apple? Cheap?

But what do I know, maybe in the US you call it cheap.

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serge_redfield November 17 2012, 21:34:35 UTC
Colleague of mine has bought an i-phone on ebay recently.
Shipped to Russia it cost about $420.
Even in Russia it's pretty affordable, given that a lot of similar devices are sold for much higher price.

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darth_sipid November 18 2012, 12:28:58 UTC
You're not talking about the latest iteration (iPhone 5 ATM?), right?
Also, was it new?

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serge_redfield November 18 2012, 14:20:02 UTC
iPhone 4
Brand new, unopened.

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old_sam November 18 2012, 00:57:04 UTC
Apple has really soared when they invented something that everyone wanted and could offer it by the price most can afford. It was not iPhone - it was iPod with iTunes. That was the moment when, instead of Apple paying famous musicians to advertise the product, musicians started paying or offering lucrative shared-profit deals to Apple in order to get into the iMusic business.

At some point, 50% of Apple's profit was coming from iPod sales.

IPhone was just the further development of the idea.

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Cohen the Barbarian

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arbat November 18 2012, 04:07:00 UTC
Я могу за пару сотен купить то, что еще десять лет назад стоило бы тысячи долларов, - в виде десктопа!

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darth_sipid November 18 2012, 12:32:19 UTC
И то что у других производителей стоит процентов на 50 дешевле?
Latest example - iPad mini vs. Google Nexus 7 vs. Amazon Kindle Fire HD.

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