I have to say that the 2ch comments are spot on. While I agree that there should never ever be an excuse for hitting a woman, (especially as hard as he seems to have hit her), it's disturbing when someone can follow another person like that. Just where is the line drawn between being a passionate and diehard fan, and being a stalker? Those diehard fans will tell you: "But it's not like I'm HURTING them!" Still, at what point does it go from overly infringing on someone's personal time and space, and just being "passionate"? Unless there is proof that he felt physically threatened or in danger, he should face charges for hitting her. However, if she was following him as much as seems to be the case, that really should be taken into account as well.
Also, the comments on this being covered up, Johnny's harassment and abuse allegations being covered up, all of it is just disgusting and creepy.
there should never ever be an excuse for hitting a woman
Personally, I think using violence is never okay on anyone, be that man or woman.
I agree with the rest, though. I won't say "she deserved it" or "it was her own fault", because that's dangerously close to the logic of "dress slutty, get raped", but the guy is only human and if she pushed him to this point, then yes, he shouldn't have hit her (especially this hard!), but what she did should be taken into account.
I believe you misunderstood and are reading things into stuff that I didn't say. Just because I said: "a man should never hit a woman" doesn't mean: "YO BUT BITCHES, ITS TOTES OKAY TO HIT MEN LOLZ".
As I was referring to this particular incident, I said: "there is never an excuse for a man to be hitting a woman". If you want my full views on violence and the various grey areas in which violence against anyone is okay, feel free to ask, (self-defense, fine), but until then, please refrain from reading ito what I say and twisting it to contain messages that don't exist.
I didn't twist anything, but I can only respond to what was written there, right? Where in my comment did I say "yo, guys, wheresthepaper thinks it's alright to use violence unless it's men against women!"?
"there should never ever be an excuse for hitting a woman
Personally, I think using violence is never okay on anyone, be that man or woman.
I agree with the rest, though."
Meaning: "I don't agree with you on this point, as it's never okay to use violence, on men OR women", which carries the implication, (TO ME), that I said that violence is okay unless it's against women.
If you didn't mean it that way, I apologize, but that is how it reads to me and that greatly bothers me as I 100% do not think that AT ALL, and I hate when people take something and twist it around. I was merely addressing the current situation at hand. Not making sweeping grand statements about things in general from atop of my soap box.
Also, the comments on this being covered up, Johnny's harassment and abuse allegations being covered up, all of it is just disgusting and creepy.
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Personally, I think using violence is never okay on anyone, be that man or woman.
I agree with the rest, though. I won't say "she deserved it" or "it was her own fault", because that's dangerously close to the logic of "dress slutty, get raped", but the guy is only human and if she pushed him to this point, then yes, he shouldn't have hit her (especially this hard!), but what she did should be taken into account.
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As I was referring to this particular incident, I said: "there is never an excuse for a man to be hitting a woman". If you want my full views on violence and the various grey areas in which violence against anyone is okay, feel free to ask, (self-defense, fine), but until then, please refrain from reading ito what I say and twisting it to contain messages that don't exist.
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Personally, I think using violence is never okay on anyone, be that man or woman.
I agree with the rest, though."
Meaning: "I don't agree with you on this point, as it's never okay to use violence, on men OR women", which carries the implication, (TO ME), that I said that violence is okay unless it's against women.
If you didn't mean it that way, I apologize, but that is how it reads to me and that greatly bothers me as I 100% do not think that AT ALL, and I hate when people take something and twist it around. I was merely addressing the current situation at hand. Not making sweeping grand statements about things in general from atop of my soap box.
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