Stupidity strikes again...

Sep 19, 2005 23:51

Some A**HOLE has managed to hack the odinist.com forums ( http://odinist.com/ )... They replaced the site with a banner for Heathens Against Hate... What a freak'n joke... I have a feeling it was a former forum member who also worked on the site at one time... Hopefully the forum will be back up ( Read more... )

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Well... wuffing September 20 2005, 04:59:32 UTC
While I am a staunch supporter of lynching hackers... you do have to admit it is kind of funny. Keep in mind, I have been in opposition to HAH for many years now.

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Re: Well... aracos September 20 2005, 07:09:03 UTC
Oh absolutely, I will admit I snickered at the irony ;)
But it still pisses me off...

BTW, you need to either email me your new #'s or give me a call sometime soon...

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Re: Well... mister_bitters September 20 2005, 09:59:42 UTC
Totally ignorant question. What's wrong with HAH?

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Here is my old article on the subject... dated but still valid wuffing September 20 2005, 10:31:37 UTC
http://ww.heathen.org says "An author talks about the blind taboo that lumps certain sites as "hate" and certain others as not, and speaks as to why the "Heathens Against Hate" movement is reactionary and ill-avised. Includes a demonstration of independent morality and a transcendence of the fear of social approval ( ... )

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Part II wuffing September 20 2005, 10:33:50 UTC
Next, there are certain Satanist/Setian groups who foolishly attempt to associate Odin with their system, which is not Northern at all, but merely a reactionary perversion of Judeo-Christian traditions and ceremonial magic.

Well, this one is going to take some time to explain so I ask the humble reader to bear with me. First of all we need to define what Satanism is and what it is not. First, Satanism is not a perversion (or even an inversion, which is what I think the author was really trying to say) of Judeo-Christian religions, but a philosophical antinomian reaction to it. I have never met a Satanist who ‘worships the Devil”, if anything the idea of worshipping any entity is an anathema to Satanists. Satanists revel in the self… and worship the self. Perhaps it is an inversion of Judeo-Christian if you think of Christianity as a self-abasing philosophy (which it is)… but the same could be said of Buddhism. So do Satanists use the Heathen gods? No. This leads us into part two of our clarification section: Setianism.

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Re: Part III wuffing September 20 2005, 10:35:45 UTC
Okay, now we know that Satanists worship the self and the same thing can be said of Setians… being a break off of Satanism proper. A Satanist will tell you “I was born a god” but a Setian will tell you “I am becoming a god”. The word Xeper, used by Setians as a model, literally means, “to become”. Setians believe that the self is a god in potentia and like all things needs to be honed and shaped into its final form. This all comes from the heavy influence of Plato on Dr. Michael Aquino’s (founder of the Temple of Set) philosophy. Plato often spoke of ‘forms’ as idealized things… and from this comes the idea of the ‘first form’, or the originating ideal. Dr. Aquino identified this first form as the Archetypical “Prince of Darkness” which can be found in most culture’s mythologies. This is the spirit of discontent with the status quo, the ultimate spirit of ‘self’ that separates ‘itself’ from the natural order in order to ‘know itself’. This archetype was known as Set to the Egyptians, Prometheus to the Greeks, and Wóden to the Germanic ( ... )

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Re: Part III wuffing September 20 2005, 10:42:33 UTC
I hardly think it necessary to comment on a bunch of angry disenchanted teenagers, but since the subject was brought up... Anything that jars a person out of their Christian imposed slumber is a good thing in my opinion. Quite often such “anti” stances will leave a person feeling hollow after a while, and it is often at this point that they will look towards more life affirming and happy religions such as ours. To put it simply… “let them blow the stink off before they come into the hall”. As for violence against Christianity, all I have to say is that Christianity wrote its wyrd long before I was born ( ... )

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