too fat to work WTF

[arabwel]

family claims they are too fat to work

What. the. fuck. SERIOULY.

this is the only thing going through my head here.

I have no fucking idea if I am angr at them, angry at society, disappointed, what the hell.

other than that there is too much WRONG with this for me to even start cataloguing.

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[ljooni]

Heard about these ones about a month ago. Here's a pretty good commentary that sums it up quite well http://fabulouslybrokeinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/no-seriously.html

They're just making stupid excuses "veggies are too expensive, I'm a student, I have no time!" my ass. They just don't want to do anything about it 'cause they get paid already.

[arabwel]

ffs., I weigh almost as uchas he parnts do - 22 st - and I work full time, dnace, exercse, etc, etc, etc.

they are using being fat as an excus for being lazy. do they have any medical conditions that make them unable to move? Last time I checked, diaetes didnöt make you incapable of moving. neither did epilepsy.

[redcoast]

How about asthma and heart conditions though. also being 60ish.

[madda_gaska]

Neither of those would stop them from doing many types of work. Fat or not, medical conditions or not, their attitude stinks almost as much as mine. And as for being 60ish... 57 puts him 8 years from retirement. He could do something.

Unlike others, I'm not suggesting stupidity is their problem though. They get paid for doing fuck all, so it's actually quite smart for them not to do anything.

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[redcoast]

It depends on how severe the condition is. Most people can work with asthma, for instance, but some people can't.

[madda_gaska]

Hmm...

I think the main reason this is annoying is because they're demanding more money for still not working. Do you think they have a TV? A car? Washing machine? Tumble drier?
I have one of those things- although to be fair, I am looking to get more money. The way I'm looking to do this is by changing job. While it's very laudable to support people who can't support themselves, should they be given a lot more money than they need to survive? I wouldn't have said so, because doing so gives no incentive to actually try to do anything.

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[redcoast]

You think people on disability shouldn't have enough money to buy a dryer? What?

should they be given a lot more money than they need to survive?

Nooo, let's punish people for being disabled. Give them a burlap sack and some dog food, they'll be fine.

doing so gives no incentive to actually try to do anything.
Well I dunno about England but in America they only give out for 100% disability (or blindness) and only for conditions that are expected to continue for their rest of the person's life, end in their death, or for a substantial amount of time (and they do reviews to see if your condition has improved). And if they find that you are non-compliant for medical treatment, abuse drugs or alcohol, or that your daily-life activities indicate that you could work, they don't give it to you

[madda_gaska]

You know what? I don't have enough money, or space to buy a dryer. A dryer is NOT necessary, however. So no, I don't think it should be considered one.

I'm actually using quite a generous form of survive here, including washing machines and televisions in it. You really don't need those- there are libraries, etc.

Agreed that there's no point giving incentives if there's no means for improvement.

However, where there's possible means for improvement, why encourage idleness? I know it happens over here because I've known people who were on benefits because it was easier than actually getting a job.

And yes, disability being annoying I can see. However, people who are already being paid enough that they can eat junk food all the time and almost certainly (let's face it) watch TV every night... and day... well, don't you consider it repulsive of them to be demanding more?

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[redcoast]

British people don't use dryers anyway, from what I heard.

[madda_gaska]

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[redcoast]

They use clotheslines! Wait, am I crazy?

[redcoast]

Aww, I didn't mean to get that dramatic. I'm sorry for snapping at you. I'm sensitive about these issues and I'm off my meds.

[madda_gaska]

Nah, you weren't that bad- I can understand the irritation at what you saw as a persistent attack on people who were maybe that way through no fault of their own.

Except... if they can't work up the effort to fix themselves, who can?

So yeah, no worries! I also should remember to read multiple sources... except hearing about people freeloading isn't anything that interesting, so...

*smiles*

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[ljooni]

Yep. I have epileptic friend, managing just fine at work, diabetic overweight friend, managing just fine too, and I myself am combined GERD (acid reflux) + panic disorder, working almost fine too :D