Although, I actually saw this a blip of the radar because we saw that Elena just went guilty after saying that. I'm just a little miffed about her doing the whole thing with Stefan.
Elena/Elijah *(Ooh! A new one!) - Understanding looks, conspiring together, guilt on Elena's side for lying to his face over the plot to kill him.
This made me want to see moments with Elijah and Talia(sp?) the original doppelganger. Just grrr chemistry. I love their chemistry too. Especially in the beginning moment when he handled Rebekah for her. The way they looked at each other... HOT. DAMN YOU DANIEL GILLIES. *drools*
Despite my bitching above, I actually did quite enjoy the Klaus/Caroline scenes and they definitely are my secondary Caroline-ship. There were some very lovely moments between the two, although, again, I did think that they should have been way more one-sided considering, you know, he's Klaus. But hey, he's not Damon. That explains it.HEHE! Yeah I agree because Klaus is supposed to be evil~ for crying
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And I've calmed and am feeling better about it from a logical, in-character point of view, LOL! ( linky to *that* post!) I'm still annoyed with Plec, Williamson and Dries though. (I'm unfollowing them. Hah! Take that!)
Although, I actually saw this a blip of the radar because we saw that Elena just went guilty after saying that. I'm just a little miffed about her doing the whole thing with Stefan.
Sigh. In retrospect, thinking it through, it DOES make sense, and we DID have that immediate guilty reaction.
RE: Elena/Elijah -- This made me want to see moments with Elijah and Talia(sp?) the original doppelganger. Just grrr chemistry. I love their chemistry too.
I WANT ELIJAH AND KATHERINE! But clearly based on all interviews, "Klaus" was some random fluke, okay then.
And I've calmed and am feeling better about it from a logical, in-character point of view, LOL! (linky to *that* post!) I'm still annoyed with Plec, Williamson and Dries though. (I'm unfollowing them. Hah! Take that!) OOH I'll run over there right now.
Sigh. In retrospect, thinking it through, it DOES make sense, and we DID have that immediate guilty reaction. I need to watch the episode to get another perspective on this. and watch Klaus/Caroline sexy times
I WANT ELIJAH AND KATHERINE! But clearly based on all interviews, "Klaus" was some random fluke, okay then. Wait. What? O.o
Sigh. Our Damon/Elena time WILL come. It will! Yes hon! They will get together. It takes time. The best ships are the ones that take time and fantastic chemistry.
Yeah, all the previews/interviews (from exec producers) have been going on and on about Elijah's "connection" to Elena, and Daniel even dissed the idea of Elijah/Katherine because Elijah would want someone more pure of heart like Elena. And I'm like, dude, when Elijah met Katherine she WAS like that, and probably still has that part in her. Ugh!
I feel like I can't say much, because most of episode is a big blur of REALLY not liking Elena
You've probably seen my new post pop up that makes Elena's actions work a LOT more for me. I still don't like them so much, but I do completely understand them now.
Damon needs to take that break from her, she needs to start coming to him instead of the other way around. She needs to feel and see what she is missing, it really needs to hit home for her that it would truly and utterly break her heart if he left or if something happened to him.
This. SO MUCH THIS!
I can only hope as you do that everything will come together perfectly by the end of the series.
I'm optimistic, and I hope that reading my follow-up post helps with this episode a bit. :)
In the meantime..I missed Alaric in this episode..can Damon go and cry on his shoulder? Do you think Ric would even let him? I wanna see them be BFF's again so much :)Nope, sadly, I have little hope that Alaric is going to be anything other than a dick to Damon. I hope there's a reason, I
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|For wanting to keep Elena alive. For saving Matt's life. For caring too much. Yeah, that all just sticks mightily heavily in my craw. that was what I was worried about...how the others see him, because hell no he wasn't self destructive at all.
Clearly, nothing anyone does bad on this show is ever going to be held against them ... unless they are Damon Salvatore. Elena clearly doesn't care about all that Stefan did, nope, she's all 'Feel something for me,' holding onto his face, wanting him to be with her in the moment, kiss her, love her. Caroline clearly doesn't care that Klaus has terrorized all of them, killed people they know, people they don't, sire-bonded Tyler to him, nope, she's all 'Ooh, he bought me a pretty dress! He's an artist! He drew a pretty picture of me!' let's get sentimental over him. THIS! God and I thought you might calm me down :)
No, he'll always be judged, and found wanting. Wow we wrote the same things.
people stick with patterns of how they treat someone, and that when someone starts out bad, it's
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I'm not going to address the Stefan, Damon, Elena stuff because of my follow-up post and your response, just the other stuff. :)
That [JP/KW]interview hit me...they are giving somthing to both the shippers and it's ok, it's a triangle. But to be a real triangle, it must be real and it's not if they rush the things as they have done in this episode. Messing up with D/E before they even start to have something it's just wrong.
Yeah, and I still wonder where all this concern for the D/E fanbase was last season? Nope, the only reassuring I recall is Plec on Twitter to S/E fans going crazy over the preview with Stefan/Katherine for "By the Light of the Moon."
RE: Carol/Liz -- Because they are not biased and there is no background history.
But there IS background history. Damon/Caroline, for Liz, and Damon flat-out being a vampire for Carol and Liz.
Plec replied to a twitter saying that Elena could say "I love you"to Damon someday. Pairing it up with the whole Pacey parallel Williamson made...welll at least they give D/E fans something..
Anyway I ship Damon/happiness more than everything and I feel excited aboout 3.16 so yeah 3.14 has been a plot device for something more interesting.
You are right they have background history but they managed to see Damon for who he seems to be when he is not in his inner circle. Liz has seen the good part of Damon when he spared her life or try to tell her that Caroline was still her daughter so I think Liz learned pretty quickly to realize thatDamon was just a person.
With Damon's inner circle there are so many issues on so many levels that things are too complicated.
Plec replied to a twitter saying that Elena could say "I love you"to Damon someday.
Wow, one comment that doesn't completely crap on D/E fans? I'm shocked. I think the Twitter outrage(because apparently there was A LOT! actually got her to say something complimentary to this ship!
Pairing it up with the whole Pacey parallel Williamson made
I didn't find out about that until this evening, and I do think it's telling that he said Pacey and not Dawson since Damon is so to Pacey, as Stefan is to Dawson. Of course, I do think that D/E are endgame, so it doesn't surprise me, but it's nice to see we're getting SOMETHING. (I still unfollowed them both, plus Dries on Twitter.)
RE: Damon, and Liz/Carol/Inner circle, you are right!
Thanks for putting all my feelings in one place. The whole dynamic of - Damon's bad, somehow it will always be Damon's fault just pisses me off. If we don't get some kind of payoff I'm going to be done. Or at least I'm going to try to be done.
UGH!!! This ep frustrated the heck out of me. It actually made me see there's very little between Klaus and Caroline, to the point where it looks like a one-sided crush until...he draws her a picture with a horse? I'm not sold on pretty much the only scene of them having chemistry was when she was freaking out of it with a werewolf bite. Because when garden variety scenes between them means she treats him with contempt, and it's not even like chemistry-laden contempt...I found myself going "...I found them hot WHY
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Rethinking made me feel better. It does actually all make sense character-wise. It's a journey, I just have to keep reminding myself it's a journey!
It actually made me see there's very little between Klaus and Caroline
I did enjoy them, I admit. Sorry you didn't. :(
And I'm beating my head against the wall that Damon GRABBED ELENA'S ARM. :headdesk: (oh, now my head is on my desk). NOOOOOOOO!!!! UGH! Bad Boyfriend Behavior 101.
He's done that before, though, in "The Sacrifice." He does tend to be grabby when he's afraid for her life AND she's just made a REALLY stupid decision that could conceivably could make her dead! Fortunately, it doesn't happen often, but I still didn't like it.
The line that really made me scream was Elena telling Stefan "Oh, you've always let me make my own choices!" Which was meant to paint as Damon's care for Elena's safety = taking away her freewill or something. ARGH!!! NOOOOOOO!!!! At least Damon admitted his "weakness" but GAH.I don't like it,
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Although, I actually saw this a blip of the radar because we saw that Elena just went guilty after saying that. I'm just a little miffed about her doing the whole thing with Stefan.
Elena/Elijah *(Ooh! A new one!) - Understanding looks, conspiring together, guilt on Elena's side for lying to his face over the plot to kill him.
This made me want to see moments with Elijah and Talia(sp?) the original doppelganger. Just grrr chemistry. I love their chemistry too. Especially in the beginning moment when he handled Rebekah for her. The way they looked at each other... HOT. DAMN YOU DANIEL GILLIES. *drools*
Despite my bitching above, I actually did quite enjoy the Klaus/Caroline scenes and they definitely are my secondary Caroline-ship. There were some very lovely moments between the two, although, again, I did think that they should have been way more one-sided considering, you know, he's Klaus. But hey, he's not Damon. That explains it.HEHE! Yeah I agree because Klaus is supposed to be evil~ for crying ( ... )
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And I've calmed and am feeling better about it from a logical, in-character point of view, LOL! ( linky to *that* post!) I'm still annoyed with Plec, Williamson and Dries though. (I'm unfollowing them. Hah! Take that!)
Although, I actually saw this a blip of the radar because we saw that Elena just went guilty after saying that. I'm just a little miffed about her doing the whole thing with Stefan.
Sigh. In retrospect, thinking it through, it DOES make sense, and we DID have that immediate guilty reaction.
RE: Elena/Elijah -- This made me want to see moments with Elijah and Talia(sp?) the original doppelganger. Just grrr chemistry. I love their chemistry too.
I WANT ELIJAH AND KATHERINE! But clearly based on all interviews, "Klaus" was some random fluke, okay then.
Sigh. Our Damon/Elena time WILL come. It will!
Heh, to your icon. :)
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OOH I'll run over there right now.
Sigh. In retrospect, thinking it through, it DOES make sense, and we DID have that immediate guilty reaction.
I need to watch the episode to get another perspective on this. and watch Klaus/Caroline sexy times
I WANT ELIJAH AND KATHERINE! But clearly based on all interviews, "Klaus" was some random fluke, okay then.
Wait. What? O.o
Sigh. Our Damon/Elena time WILL come. It will!
Yes hon! They will get together. It takes time. The best ships are the ones that take time and fantastic chemistry.
Heh, to your icon. :)
;D It's my favorite.
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Hope you like and agree with the other post. :)
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You've probably seen my new post pop up that makes Elena's actions work a LOT more for me. I still don't like them so much, but I do completely understand them now.
Damon needs to take that break from her, she needs to start coming to him instead of the other way around. She needs to feel and see what she is missing, it really needs to hit home for her that it would truly and utterly break her heart if he left or if something happened to him.
This. SO MUCH THIS!
I can only hope as you do that everything will come together perfectly by the end of the series.
I'm optimistic, and I hope that reading my follow-up post helps with this episode a bit. :)
In the meantime..I missed Alaric in this episode..can Damon go and cry on his shoulder? Do you think Ric would even let him? I wanna see them be BFF's again so much :)Nope, sadly, I have little hope that Alaric is going to be anything other than a dick to Damon. I hope there's a reason, I ( ... )
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that was what I was worried about...how the others see him, because hell no he wasn't self destructive at all.
Clearly, nothing anyone does bad on this show is ever going to be held against them ... unless they are Damon Salvatore. Elena clearly doesn't care about all that Stefan did, nope, she's all 'Feel something for me,' holding onto his face, wanting him to be with her in the moment, kiss her, love her. Caroline clearly doesn't care that Klaus has terrorized all of them, killed people they know, people they don't, sire-bonded Tyler to him, nope, she's all 'Ooh, he bought me a pretty dress! He's an artist! He drew a pretty picture of me!' let's get sentimental over him.
THIS!
God and I thought you might calm me down :)
No, he'll always be judged, and found wanting.
Wow we wrote the same things.
people stick with patterns of how they treat someone, and that when someone starts out bad, it's ( ... )
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That [JP/KW]interview hit me...they are giving somthing to both the shippers and it's ok, it's a triangle. But to be a real triangle, it must be real and it's not if they rush the things as they have done in this episode. Messing up with D/E before they even start to have something it's just wrong.
Yeah, and I still wonder where all this concern for the D/E fanbase was last season? Nope, the only reassuring I recall is Plec on Twitter to S/E fans going crazy over the preview with Stefan/Katherine for "By the Light of the Moon."
RE: Carol/Liz -- Because they are not biased and there is no background history.
But there IS background history. Damon/Caroline, for Liz, and Damon flat-out being a vampire for Carol and Liz.
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Anyway I ship Damon/happiness more than everything and I feel excited aboout 3.16 so yeah 3.14 has been a plot device for something more interesting.
You are right they have background history but they managed to see Damon for who he seems to be when he is not in his inner circle. Liz has seen the good part of Damon when he spared her life or try to tell her that Caroline was still her daughter so I think Liz learned pretty quickly to realize thatDamon was just a person.
With Damon's inner circle there are so many issues on so many levels that things are too complicated.
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Wow, one comment that doesn't completely crap on D/E fans? I'm shocked. I think the Twitter outrage(because apparently there was A LOT! actually got her to say something complimentary to this ship!
Pairing it up with the whole Pacey parallel Williamson made
I didn't find out about that until this evening, and I do think it's telling that he said Pacey and not Dawson since Damon is so to Pacey, as Stefan is to Dawson. Of course, I do think that D/E are endgame, so it doesn't surprise me, but it's nice to see we're getting SOMETHING. (I still unfollowed them both, plus Dries on Twitter.)
RE: Damon, and Liz/Carol/Inner circle, you are right!
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This ep was just so disappointing to me.
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Rethinking made me feel better. It does actually all make sense character-wise. It's a journey, I just have to keep reminding myself it's a journey!
It actually made me see there's very little between Klaus and Caroline
I did enjoy them, I admit. Sorry you didn't. :(
And I'm beating my head against the wall that Damon GRABBED ELENA'S ARM. :headdesk: (oh, now my head is on my desk). NOOOOOOOO!!!! UGH! Bad Boyfriend Behavior 101.
He's done that before, though, in "The Sacrifice." He does tend to be grabby when he's afraid for her life AND she's just made a REALLY stupid decision that could conceivably could make her dead! Fortunately, it doesn't happen often, but I still didn't like it.
The line that really made me scream was Elena telling Stefan "Oh, you've always let me make my own choices!" Which was meant to paint as Damon's care for Elena's safety = taking away her freewill or something. ARGH!!! NOOOOOOO!!!! At least Damon admitted his "weakness" but GAH.I don't like it, ( ... )
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