3.01 - 'The Birthday' - Take Two (The Vampire Diaries)

Sep 18, 2011 15:59

So rewatched the premiere and I haz thoughts! (If you missed my post based on my first-run through, you can find it here. FYI: There were some fabulous comments from my flist in the thread.)

I SWEAR this will not be as long! )

ep discussion-tvd, damon salvatore, stefan salvatore, tv, the vampire diaries, elena gilbert, elijah mikaelson, caroline forbes, daniel gillies, alaric saltzman, damon/elena

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arabian September 22 2011, 21:26:04 UTC
I think Damon will definitely be brought into the Caroline kidnapping because besides her needing to be saved, a vampire disappearing = someone is in the know, so some damage control has to be administered.

Damn, I love Damon in damage control-mode. Can't wait. And I love when we get glimpses that Damon has grown to care for Caroline. Awww. (Yes, like the show, I'm just choosing to pretty much ignore the early start of their relationship. She threw his ass across a hallway and told him he sucked, uhm, okay then, bygones.)

This season seems to be a "second chances" season, isn't it, with Damon being given the opportunity not to walk out on Stefan's ripper tear this time around, and now Tyler getting another shot to stand up for Caroline.

I do hope he does, even if I doubt anything can turn me onto shipping these two at this point, but it certainly is something that should be addressed and made up for.

Ugh, I have so many problems with the way he walked out and this particular line, and I also talked about it in my review. It's like something that would come out of a child's mouth who has no idea what being 18 means.

YES!!!

I feel that he's being a way worse role model for walking out on them rather than drinking and angsting all the time, and I hope he realizes that too.

I agree completely, and I do hope he realizes it. Part of the problem, I totally do get, is that he is just about as messed up as these kids at this point, but, damnit, Alaric, they are KIDS! (Even if your BFF totally wants to bone the hell out of one those said kids. The 18-mark works here, though, it's all about legality, baby.)

Whenever a Klaus scene comes up, I find myself wondering, "Where does Stefan come in?" It's somewhat the same when it comes to scenes back home when my eyes are glued to Damon. This is definitely a good opportunity for Paul!

I agree; I really do. I can't see any Paul fan not being thrilled about this turn.

I'm always a bit annoyed by the good brother/bad brother generalization that both the fandom and the media have adopted over the years.

I think it doesn't bother me because the producers/actors have always been very, very clear (especially Ian, Kevin and Julie) that there is no "bad brother," no "good brother," so I just roll my eyes at the comments from "fans," media, who clearly are not paying attention (most importantly) to (a) THE SHOW's portrayal, and (b) the producers/actors.

While it might seem this way on the surface, the good brother image is something that Stefan has created for himself and patched over his darker side. It's like he feels the need to take the moral highroad whenever possible to keep this image up and not letting anyone know his true self - instead of coming to terms with his being. I consider his personality more dangerous than that of Damon's who can be violent and impulsive, and yet what you see is what you get.

Yes, again, I totally agree. (Man, we so should have been friends before. I don't know if you have, but I have LONG, WINDY thoughts about every season two episode, and quite a lot of posts in general talking about TVD.)

Good point! I didn't give his reply much of a thought since I was preoccupied with what is happening to Andie in the meantime, but you're right, he totally lies about going to pick her up.

Yeah, I didn't think about it until the rewatch, but I did find it interesting in retrospect.

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dreamingahead September 25 2011, 20:05:37 UTC
Damn, I love Damon in damage control-mode. Can't wait. And I love when we get glimpses that Damon has grown to care for Caroline. Awww.

Yeah, it does seem like Tyler's confession to his mother won't be enough to save Caroline, so whom do people turn to in times of crisis? Damon. I hope this time won't be any different!

She threw his ass across a hallway and told him he sucked, uhm, okay then, bygones.

According to Jeremy, the memories of the compelled go away, but feelings don't, so she probably stayed really upset at him all the time and couldn't point out WHY EXACTLY. For all intents & purposes, Caroline's turning into a vampire, remembering everything and calling Damon out on his behaviour did wonders for their relationship!

I agree completely, and I do hope he realizes it. Part of the problem, I totally do get, is that he is just about as messed up as these kids at this point, but, damnit, Alaric, they are KIDS!

HEE. Elena fulfilled John's wish after all and got herself a surrogate kid to offer the ring to (and parent in times of personal crises). ;)

(Even if your BFF totally wants to bone the hell out of one those said kids. The 18-mark works here, though, it's all about legality, baby.)

Just in time for this season, too! Well done getting that out of the way right in the premier, writers.

I think it doesn't bother me because the producers/actors have always been very, very clear (especially Ian, Kevin and Julie) that there is no "bad brother," no "good brother," so I just roll my eyes at the comments from "fans," media, who clearly are not paying attention (most importantly) to (a) THE SHOW's portrayal, and (b) the producers/actors.

Yeah, I guess seeing the world in black & white is always easier, but way less engaging when it comes to such a multi-layered TV show.

Yes, again, I totally agree. (Man, we so should have been friends before. I don't know if you have, but I have LONG, WINDY thoughts about every season two episode, and quite a lot of posts in general talking about TVD.)

Sadly, I don't have any entries b/c I had only one or two friends who watched at the time. What I did was hang out in those friends' journals from time to time and discuss there with friends of friends. I believe I once had a long and elaborate conversation about this very subject (Damon=/=bad/Stefan=/=good) in a journal of someone who wasn't even watching TVD. I'm sure she was thrilled about that, lol.

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