Discussion came up in one of my Vampire Diaries posts about
Damon being the central character in "The Descent", and
crowandfog (whose username I will forever adore) came up with the idea of listing the central character from each episode to see how it played out. (You can see that
list here.) Now, she wound up picking more than one character for certain
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What did you think of my choices so far? Agree/disagree?
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Yeah, so far I'm with you. I think you did a nice, objective job of following the criteria you set.
So. Tally? Lol.
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I'll try and work on the second post tomorrow. I hope to have all three done before the weekend's over. *Hope* being the key word, LOL!
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Does your list account for POV? It seems from your explanation that you based your list a lot more on motivations and emotional resonance. That would explain some of the differences in our lists because I focused mostly on screen time and POV (although that can often translate into emotional resonance). It would also explain why you were able to narrow it down while I kept splitting episodes between characters. TVD does a decent good job of getting everyone in front of the camera, even if they don't all get a plot, lol.
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And I agree that a lot of the problem is the flatness of Stefan's character. He can't carry storylines if he has no conflict. I think that the writers did his character a big disservice in 2x15 by making his transition from 'bad' to 'good' so easy and quick.
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Well, Caroline had two episodes in season one (far apart), while she's had three in season two (admittedly with seven episodes left to go), but two of her episodes were at the beginning of the season when her story was hitting into high gear. She's definitely more prominent this season than last, but she's still on the lower end of "lead" characters. Right now, it's really only Damon and Elena who remain top of the list "leads." With my four points, Stefan actually falls more under supporting this season.
And I agree that a lot of the problem is the flatness of Stefan's character. He can't carry storylines if he has no conflict. I think that the writers did his character a big disservice in 2x15 by making his transition from 'bad' to 'good' so easy and quick.Yup, ( ... )
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Yeah, I would agree that Elena and Damon are the lead characters of S2, at least so far. I suppose that things could undergo some kind of massive turn-around at the end of the season, though it's hard to picture.
I think this may be partly why I adore Stefan and Caroline so much. While he's still samey mcSamerson in terms of character, there's at least a lightness in their scenes and because of the nature of Caroline's character, she provokes him to react either in exasperation or amusement. Which brings out a different side to him ( ... )
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Well, the Stefan on human blood arc didn't start until episode 17 and that was a good run through episode 20, so I will never count out this show's ability to spring huge character stuffies on us in the home stretch of the season.
Stefan's reactions to Caroline also feel more spontaneous and genuine, while there's always that planned-out feeling to his relationship with Elena.
Yes, it's like Stefan and Elena are following the rulebook on how to behave in a star-crossed "epic" romance, no deviation or spontaneity allowed. :Yawn:
...he hasn't changed in his relationship with Elena at all. He's doing the exact same pattern of 'lie until she figures it out herself' that has been his stand-by since 1x01. There's been zero growth in how Stefan relates to Elena. At least his relationship with Damon has evolved.Right. Nothing ( ... )
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I think when they cast Damon to be the "villain" they didn't realize how nuanced he was going to be. Hopeful, sure, but come on. That's why I love episode 1x03 so much, because it's all there, everything that will come to be about Damon.
And Ian's just hot. Everybody wants him, from the writers to the lead actress to the viewers--and you gotta give the people what they want.
I love that you point out the Matt & Elena matching costumes in Haunted. That's one of my favorite details that they use to show what used to be, and I always thought it was so well executed. Zach always made me believe Matt had known Elena forever and he still just had that thing for her. Poor Matty ( ... )
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Yup. We go back to the fact that the studio didn't even want to hire Ian. Sure, he'd had Lost, but that was ages ago and he was basically known for being the pretty boy, not his talent or charisma. Despite being around for 10+ years, The Vampire Diaries really has been his break-out role.
And, sorry, Stefan, but LOL-ing forever to that "Stefan makes a phone call."
That's why I love episode 1x03 so much, because it's all there, everything that will come to be about Damon.
Very good point. We see so much of who Damon is (both good and bad) in that episode.
And Ian's just hot. Everybody wants him, from the writers to the lead actress to the viewers--and you gotta give the people what they want.
Sigh. SO! HOT!
love that you point out the Matt ( ... )
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I can't get over that Stefan making a phone call thing, either. It's SO FUNNY.
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