Doctor Who 1x06 "Dalek" rewatch-review

Aug 16, 2008 19:06

As I've stated elsewhere, once I finished season two of New Who, I was going to rewatch and review what I call my "Her Name was Rose" collection (click here for the full list of episodes).

On with 'Dalek' now ... Spoilers for 'The Long Game' and vague references here and there to Daleks. That's about it this time around. )

christopher eccleston, doctor who, tv, rewatch-review, doctor/rose, billie piper

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bell_jar_fics August 17 2008, 03:43:34 UTC
I agree 100% about the deleted hug. Why did they cut it out, anyway? To save time and/or money? Wooo, great job, DW crew- you kept the episode from running two seconds past the alloted time, and you saved a stinking penny!

Still, as much as I wish they kept that hug in, it's still much better than when Doctor Who airs on Sci-Fi over in America. Just a few hours ago, they showed Runaway Bride, and they cut out almost all the Rose references, including the Doctor's New Earth flashback during the reception, and even 'Her name was Rose'. Even worse, they cut out the part when Donna told the Doctor 'you can stop now' when he was flooding the underground base. Seriously, that part was VERY important when you take Turn Left into consideration. (Forgive my rant, but I get really miffed when I see Sci-Fi cutting/shortening scenes that I feel are important to the episode or story arc.)

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arabian August 17 2008, 13:03:36 UTC
Yeah, those two seconds must have been vital to the BBC, otherwise, makes no sense! GRR.

Oh, Lordy, now I'm happier than ever that I stopped watching the Sci-Fi channel's run of the series and just went with the BBC cuts because, oy, the scenes I would have missed.

How could they cut ALL of those totally awesome, and totally-setting up the Doctor's arc of emo pain over losing Rose?!?!? Ugh!!

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logicisfailing August 17 2008, 16:28:32 UTC
Yeah, Sci-Fi does cut the 'fluff' scenes a lot (re-wataching a marathon of S1 I'd taped, they cut the 'you're beautiful' scene from the 'Unquiet Dead' - outrageous!). Though, with 'Runaway Bride' they did keep that stuff in when it first aired . It is longer than an hour so they must cut those when they air reruns.

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arabian August 17 2008, 16:47:15 UTC
They cut the "You're beautiful" scene!?!?!? That's ... that's ... why, that's BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!

Ugh, just so wrong.

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erikssiren August 17 2008, 03:47:06 UTC
I can't remember if I've commented on any of your other recaps, but I've been reading every one! They're brilliant and I've been dying to hear what someone else thinks about the episodes. I've only seen the complete first series and am a little afraid that David won't live up to Christopher's amazing performance as the Doctor.

In that scene where the Dalek is telling Rose its going to die, I knew he was up to something. After seeing the previous scene with the Doctor I just knew it wasn't really dying.

And shame on them for deleting the hug! These two have such amazing chemistry it's criminal anything celebrating that was cut. Ah well, at least they shot it in the first place!

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arabian August 17 2008, 13:06:48 UTC
I don't think I've seen your name before, so I don't think so.

Honestly, I don't think that David Tennant is as good as Christopher Eccleston, but he's still pretty dang awesome. Christopher Eccleston is just, well, Christopher Eccleston. If you give it a little time before watching series two, you should be fine. I went extreme and waited two years before watching series two, but as you can see, I'm totally HOOKED!

In that scene where the Dalek is telling Rose its going to die, I knew he was up to something. After seeing the previous scene with the Doctor I just knew it wasn't really dying.

No, I do think it was dying. Rose's DNA just basically regenerated it. But her DNA mutated it into a creature that feels something other than hate and that's just a no-no in the Dalek mindset.

Ah well, at least they shot it in the first place!

Yeah, and it does fit ever so nicely into the scene.

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arabian August 17 2008, 13:12:04 UTC
I always felt like Rose was just flirting with Adam for the sake of flirting with a nice looking bloke- there are several moments that make it seem like he amuses her more than a little.

Right, that's what I meant when I wrote this:

    I could see (possibly, could be my overactive shipper imagination) that it was more Rose trying to slip into that 'cute boy/I'm nineteen, I should flirt' mode.
And I certainly did get the sense that she was amused by him at moments in their scene. I even almost commented on it, but decided not to in the end because I wasn't sure quite how to explain it.

But I do wish they hadn't brought him along- the main ending to Dalek is just so very powerful, and I very much agree- the last little scenes totally undercut everything.That I think was a directive from higher up because I believe that "The Long Game" was supposed to be pretty Doctor-lite, but at that point they were aware of the gold they had with Eccelston and Piper and so threw in more Doctor/Rose moments to capitalize on that ( ... )

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honorh August 17 2008, 04:48:47 UTC
I loved this episode. It's by far my favorite one-shot in S1 ( ... )

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arabian August 17 2008, 13:15:50 UTC
I loved this episode. It's by far my favorite one-shot in S1.

It really is amazing (even with my issues). I mean, serously, I teared up five times in a forty-five minute span!

You know, I never got the impression Rose was particularly attracted to Adam. Sure, she flirted, because flirting's fun, but look what she does--she gets Adam to give away far more information than she could've if she'd just been asking him question after question. Guys can't resist bragging to cute girls. She used that to her advantage. But it's the Doctor she focuses her emotional energy on.

You know, I didn't think she was actually attracted to him, more flirting to flirt, but you have a very valid point about her information gathering skills. Ooh, I LIKE that!!!

CE was amazing in this. The singsong little "Help me" as he mocked the Dalek sent shivers up my spine, and when he shouted at the Dalek to "Just die!" with that little bit of spittle on his lip? Amazing! In the commentary, they said that he was well aware of it, and he said he wanted to keep ( ... )

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prynne12 August 17 2008, 17:51:08 UTC
Nah, it's wretched. In fact, the first time I watched it--I flinched. "Godd-ARD" just isn't natural.

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corusca August 17 2008, 20:01:52 UTC
Not really though...I mean, I'm a born and bred American and though she might maybe sound a bit odd, I'd never pick her out as sounding fake. *shrug*

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sammie28 August 17 2008, 05:20:06 UTC
Agree on the Doctor-Rose relationship; it wasn't the best here, though individually they were powerful - the Doctor's pain and Rose's compassion.

...the final scene between Goddard and Van Statten was just wrong. ... Unnecessary and it was quite an abrupt emotional switch.

It was problematic for me as well. It finishes Van Statten's story but also breaks up the flow. Perhaps Goddard's attitude at the end was "Better kill one man than let him kill many more" (plus, schadenfreude). Bad placement, though!

She seems to be trying too hard to be impressed by him

THANK YOU! The first time I saw this I thought it was just Adam hitting on Rose (one-sided). I couldn't see chemistry, either. Then I watched with the commentary, and they kept talking about chemistry, and I was thinking, "Where?"

The Dalek, no doubt, got more from Rose than just her DNA if he was getting her emotions

That's an interesting proposal - kind of like when Cassandra reads her thoughts in "New Earth"? It doesn't really make sense otherwise.

the ( ... )

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arabian August 17 2008, 13:28:35 UTC
Agree on the Doctor-Rose relationship; it wasn't the best here, though individually they were powerful - the Doctor's pain and Rose's compassion.

Yes, individually, both were AMAZING, but their relationship just doesn't flow from the previous episodes.

...the final scene between Goddard and Van Statten was just wrong. ... Unnecessary and it was quite an abrupt emotional switch.

It was problematic for me as well. It finishes Van Statten's story but also breaks up the flow. Perhaps Goddard's attitude at the end was "Better kill one man than let him kill many more" (plus, schadenfreude). Bad placement, though!

Hearing the whys of this scene make me feel better (that it wasn't Shearman's intention or work), but still it sucks because this episode was so powerful and that was in the last minute and thus left a bigger impression than it should have.

She seems to be trying too hard to be impressed by him ( ... )

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robshearman August 18 2008, 15:58:56 UTC
Well, even as far back as Revelation of the Daleks, really. Which is where we see Davros levitating. The idea of flying Daleks has, of course, been around in the comics since the 1960s.

I never claimed I wasn't cribbing from the best! (Though, typically, all the press at the time wanted to big up the Dalek conquering stairs as if it were a new achievement - I kept telling them about past adventures until the BBC publicity machine told me to shut up and stop ruining the news story...!)

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