Conference presentations vs. journal publications

Dec 10, 2008 17:04

Which do you think would do more to help an application to a PhD program ( Read more... )

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homericlaughter December 10 2008, 22:41:36 UTC
Obviously, it would be wonderful if you could find some way to do both.

If I *had* to choose, I'd take publication. It lasts longer.

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 22:45:03 UTC
Thanks for the input! My concern is that it would be seen as overkill to wring two presentations and a journal publication out of one study.

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teaganc December 10 2008, 22:54:19 UTC
I know people who have presented a version of a paper that becomes a publication later. Present the less refined version, and then work with the faculty member to refine more until it is publishable. Then, publish.

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signsoflife December 10 2008, 22:58:47 UTC
I'm actually a bit confused. I've never encountered this idea that presenting data at a conference somehow prevents it from being publishable later. How are the people who didn't attend the conference supposed to learn about your work?

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 23:04:38 UTC
The data has already been presented once (albeit with a very rough analysis), so my concern with doing what teaganc described is that it might seem like I'm going overboard with milking one study if it forms the basis for two presentations and a publication.

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teaganc December 10 2008, 23:08:36 UTC
Have you ever looked at your professors' CVs? Gathering data is the hard part, and then they publish several papers/present at several conferences on different aspects of the data/issue. At least, I've seen people spend their entire career publishing on YMCAs (weird).

But if you've already presented this and don't have a better/different presentation, then work on publishing. No biggie. There are tons of conference opportunities.

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signsoflife December 10 2008, 23:15:00 UTC
Ditto, ditto.

OP -- does your field do poster sessions? You might consider presenting your thesis work as a poster. That will also get you talking to people at the conference.

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 23:36:49 UTC
I hadn't thought of poster sessions. That's definitely worth looking into. I don't think this bigshot conference has them but maybe another. Thanks!

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gangur December 11 2008, 04:07:45 UTC
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stormyangel December 12 2008, 00:22:11 UTC
Seconded! You need to get everything you can while you can. ;)

I would expect that as people have said, you can get some different angles out of the same work so present at the conference and then refine it for the paper.

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 23:09:32 UTC
If I hadn't already presented it once I'd definitely do this. But you're right, it may be worth giving the conference submission a shot anyways. At the very least the review could be helpful when polishing the paper for journal submission.

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homericlaughter December 10 2008, 23:08:31 UTC
Hehe, maybe. What's your field again?

In the humanities, we can parlay entire careers out of one study. The key: re-titling.

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 23:12:06 UTC
I'm in management. I'm not sure what the protocol is, but I do know actually having original empirical data seems to be a fairly big deal, so maybe I could get away with it.

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tisiphone December 10 2008, 23:26:33 UTC
Gert Hofstede has been publishing and republishing the same data for decades now :) In more mundane terms, I often run across 2-3 publications or presentations of the same data when researching stuff. I say, go ahead and present the unrefined version at the conference and then refine it.

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bananainpyjamas December 10 2008, 23:35:53 UTC
haha, that's a fair point. :) I guess I was just worried it might stand out more on a CV as sparse as mine, but given that I only have a BS that's probably forgivable.

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tisiphone December 10 2008, 23:37:22 UTC
Basically, yeah - how many major research projects could you be expected to have undertaken at this point?

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