prop 8 revisited

Nov 18, 2008 17:09

So thinking back, I think there's this huge disconnect between people who support equal rights for gay people and people who don't, purely because the latter don't fully understand the situation. I'm sure there are some people in the latter group who do understand everything fully, I think it's then safe to call those specific people bigots ( Read more... )

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nc_seventeen November 22 2008, 09:04:42 UTC
"What is the big deal over educating kids about equality? Sex ed doesn't generally involve describing in explicit detail how to have sex. A vagina is a vagina, a penis is a penis, here's how to use a condom or dental dam, go have fun, or don't go have fun that's up to you. Nobody is saying anything about a dildo up a vagina or two penises. Nobody is forcing kids to believe that they need to change genders. It's simple education to not introduce or reinforce the idea that people of the same gender in a relationship are immoral and it's common sense to be fair."

That would actually be incredibly progressive. In 36 states sex ed is more like, "Here's a penis, here's a vagina, if you ever, EVER choose to use them before marriage, (To the opposite sex!) God will hate you and you will die of AIDS. BTW, here is a whole bunch of anti-safer-sex propaganda that is completely untrue and misleading. Also, condoms only work 40% of the time. KTHNXBYE.

Seriously.

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applegoddess November 22 2008, 09:13:40 UTC
Hmm, but is it the case in california? I really doubt it, unless certain schools in LAUSD were exceptions. The other states shouldn't matter if it's *california* law we are changing right now.

There's a whole different discussion to be had about the quality of sex ed nationwide and even worldwide though.

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nc_seventeen November 22 2008, 09:16:42 UTC
No. California forgoes tens of millions of dollars from the Federal Government so that we have the right to teach sex ed rather than abstinence only. Btw, Bush gave an extra 200 million to those programs during his first year.

Now, MY sex-ed experience was awful. We had these idiot abstinence only folks come in. Luckily I just happened to have the CDC's most recent report on my desk that day. I was actually pulled from class for interrupting the speakers every 13 minutes.

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applegoddess November 22 2008, 09:21:54 UTC
well i'll be glad to see bush out of office fairly soon. personally i had a really amazing sex ed class the last time talking about *everything*, all the times before that were fairly mediocre.

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nc_seventeen November 22 2008, 09:24:07 UTC
I got sent to the principal and said, "I'll take a zero for the day, and you can take off participation points, but if you even think of penalizing me for reading CDC documents aloud while we were being openly lied to in class...well...you won't have a pension anymore."

Or, I PLANNED to say that. Luckily, the principal was a cool guy and thought I was funny. I got to go home early.

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