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Mar 06, 2011 20:21

The only thing that connects us, as humans, is that we are alive and that we are human. The only reward we get for this, this condition of being human, is the certainty of death. That is why, I think, I'm "sort of a nihilist"; our only certainty is that we are alive and must die, our only imperative is to keep living until we die - whether by ( Read more... )

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coniferous_you March 6 2011, 22:37:40 UTC
"So what?" is an excellent theological position, I approve.

Yeah, it's a good one. It's weird that the only religious folks who accept this notion are church leaders (Mother Theresa almost got ousted from the sainthood process when it was revealed that she really didn't know what was coming at the end of her old age and when she doubted that prayer, but not good works, did anything), and old priests (my dad has a habit of befriending the only educated intellectual in the community who was only even there because the church sent him there). Everyone else in that subset of the population has given me the offensive, knee-jerk reaction that my trolling younger self would have desired. Except for this one guy in university. He talked like a pirate sometimes.

*g* Well, I am fairly certain I'm going to die possibly tonight if my sinuses don't cut this shit out and I am rather excited by the knowledge that the earth, sun, universe, and TIME ITSELF are also going to die. Everything ends is such a beautiful concept. "This, too, shall pass" before the hippies ate it...

While I hope you feel better, it's good to be relatively comfortable with your belief system. I get the feeling that many people are not, no matter how violently (and perhaps because of how violently) they defend their metaphysical stance on things when trolled thusly. I respect that.

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apiphile March 6 2011, 22:41:43 UTC
Oh ho. Yeah. My mother's response to "we have no idea what happens" was "isn't it wonderful?" so I may have picked that up from her. Only with more aggressive I DON'T KNOW SHIT AND NEITHER DO YOU and less mysticism.

I'm comfortable with my beliefs, largely because they don't demand anything of me or of anyone else, but that doesn't mean I'm not afraid of dying. I'm scared mostly that it's going to hurt, and be cold and lonely. I figure once you're dead, there's no YOU to experience it, so it doesn't matter that there's no more you etc. But actually going through the process of dying scares me.

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coniferous_you March 6 2011, 23:23:10 UTC
I DON'T KNOW SHIT AND NEITHER DO YOU

This should be a book title. I don't see what's so wrong with it. Everything is kind of relative, so if you believe in such and such a thing - it doesn't make it right but it also doesn't mean that I can convince you otherwise (or that I should even try); it just means neither of us can know for sure so you can believe that ice cream tastes good and I will believe that I can actually finish my homework by Tuesday. It's possible that we are both right, both wrong or something in between, but not certain.

I figure once you're dead, there's no YOU to experience it, so it doesn't matter that there's no more you etc.

I have a friend who theorized a "what if" scenario of dying. His theory was that, what if the dying person's perception of time slows infinitely and thus they are somewhat stuck in time for what seems, to them, like an infinity but to us seems like a few seconds? (That's what I get for befriending a Religious Studies major).

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apiphile March 7 2011, 07:05:42 UTC
Hah, but there are plenty of studies and plenty of people who've "died" and come back to life that prove this just isn't the case so your RS Major needs to learn some science, suck a dick, and shut up. ;)

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coniferous_you March 7 2011, 22:12:55 UTC
Hah, but there are plenty of studies and plenty of people who've "died" and come back to life that prove this just isn't the case so your RS Major needs to learn some science,

While I'm pretty sure he'd never look at a scientific study (let alone ANYTHING that didn't directly relate to his field, and even then it would be the night before the assignment is due - and yet he somehow finished first in both his discipline AND THE ENTIRE ARTS PROGRAM AT OUR UNIVERSITY) his speculation was just stoned posturing. His real stance toward religious, agnostic, atheist and whatever other metaphysical belief is "lolbelief."

Of course, even if he believed in something, I am definitely not cool enough to get away with saying such things to my friends.

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apiphile March 7 2011, 22:33:44 UTC
Oh god stoner "philosophical" questions are welcome to bite my arse any time they fucking like.

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